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daithibru
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FuckleBerryJuJu
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The Earth Is Flat.

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Started: 1/22/2016 Category: Science
Updated: 9 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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daithibru

Pro

Dublin Bay is a horseshoe shape which spans about 6.2 miles. Standing at sea level using binoculars you can clearly see waves crashing against the shore on the far side of the bay. How is this possible if the horizon line is 2.9 miles away?
FuckleBerryJuJu

Con

Theoretically I don't think you can if Dublin bay is infact 6+ miles across. However, I can provide you with some possible solutions for your dilemma.
1) It depends on how tall you are, the taller you are the farther you can see.
2) Another explanation could be refraction, where light rays bend which allows us to see even further than we normally would be able too. Given the weather conditions this could be the case, more refraction tends to take place in colder climates, and when frost is present.
3) The third explanation would be that the part of the waves your seeing are higher than sea level, thus the point of the rock they are hitting could actually be the top of the rock and that is why you are able to see it from that distance.
4) Think about water in a test tube, it is concave. This tends to be a unique property of water, and it is thought that you are able to see farther than normal at sea level when you are looking from land mass to land mass.
5) THE EARTH MUST BE FLAT
Debate Round No. 1
daithibru

Pro

1) "Height above sea level". This is basic trigonometry. I am referring specifically to the 5ft 10inches above sea level Google (Nasa/Your science teacher...) claims you need to be at in order for the horizon line to be calculated at a distance of 2.9 miles. You're point is invalid.
2)"Could be refraction". This is debate, not a think tank for fairytale stories. Evidence please. Point invalid.
3)"Sea is not level". Lucky for you I thought of this problem ahead of time and was sure to perform tests on calm days with swells of height less than that of 3 feet. Point invalid.
4)"Meniscus". Don't make me laugh. Point invalid.
5)This was fun, but don't bother wasting my time again unless you've got a real point, thanks ;)

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FuckleBerryJuJu

Con

FuckleBerryJuJu forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
daithibru

Pro

1. The horizon Line is not 2.9 miles away. Go look.
(Bring your binoculars, head to the beach, have fun)
2. The sun is not 93,000,000 miles away. Go look.
(You don't really think you can only see 10 miles on earth yet easily see 93,000,000 miles in space do you?)
3. Then moon is not 238,855 miles away. Go look.
(Same point again...)
4. The earth evidently does not rotate around the sun. Did you feel that? No? Go look
(If the Earth really was moving through the universe at over 3 million mph don't you think you'd feel it? Basic physics & biology tell us that when it comes to external forces acting upon the body our senses simply cannot be fooled. A person always knows when they are moving whether its 1 mile an hour or 1 million. Also if you track the sun throughout the sky you can clearly see that the pattern it moves through could not possible conform to a heliocentric model.)
The evidence for a flat earth is all around you, all you have to do is look.
FuckleBerryJuJu

Con

FuckleBerryJuJu forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
daithibru

Pro

daithibru forfeited this round.
FuckleBerryJuJu

Con

FuckleBerryJuJu forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
daithibru

Pro

daithibru forfeited this round.
FuckleBerryJuJu

Con

FuckleBerryJuJu forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by U.n 10 months ago
U.n
I think 4 rounds of forfeited turns would be sufficient.
Posted by daithibru 10 months ago
daithibru
Sorry posted this in the comments by accident #noob
Posted by daithibru 10 months ago
daithibru
1. The horizon Line is not 2.9 miles away. Go look.
(Bring your binoculars, head to the beach, have fun)

2. The sun is not 93,000,000 miles away. Go look.
(You don't really think you can only see 10 miles on earth yet easily see 93,000,000 miles in space do you?)

3. Then moon is not 238,855 miles away. Go look.
(Same point again...)

4. The earth evidently does not rotate around the sun. Did you feel that? No? Go look
(If the Earth really was moving through the universe at over 3 million mph don't you think you'd feel it? Basic physics & biology tell us that when it comes to external forces acting upon the body our senses simply cannot be fooled. A person always knows when they are moving whether its 1 mile an hour or 1 million. Also if you track the sun throughout the sky you can clearly see that the pattern it moves through could not possible conform to a heliocentric model.)

The evidence for a flat earth is all around you, all you have to do is look.

If you plotted the time humans have been on earth (6000 years) on a 24hr clock we would have only started believing it was round 1 minute and 48 seconds ago....

Think about how insignificant that is 1m 48s out of 1,440 minutes. Its not very long is it?

So why did everyone else think it was flat the other 1,438m 12s?

Well people were harder to fool, they spent a lot more time outside than we did... Go look

Not so smart now are we?

:D

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