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JonathanSmits
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I-am-a-panda
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The Egg came first, not the Chicken

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Started: 4/18/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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JonathanSmits

Pro

The egg came first, details shall be displayed in round 2
I-am-a-panda

Con

I would like to thank my opponent for this debate. I will now give my two points to prove my case:

===EVOLUTIONIST THEORY===

If you are an evolutionist, you would believe the chicken evolved from a bird species like it. Whilst the chicken was an egg, it was still the egg it's predecessor, let's call it Animal X. Now, Animal X lays the egg which the chicken will hatch from. However, the egg is still that off Animal X's species, as it was laid by Animal X. When it hatches the Animal is now a chicken.

Therefore, under n evolutionist viewpoint, the Chicken came first.

===CREATIONIST THEORY===

If you are a creationist, you believe God (Or some supernatural being) created all animals. Therefore, it would make more sense for God to make matured animals ready for breeding that cha fend for themselves rather than eggs, that need the care of their parents. If we assume the God is the Christian God, I quote genesis in that:

""Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens." 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind"

From the above quote, it is clear the Judeo-Christian God made chicken before eggs.

That will be my argument for now. I would like to thank the readers, and wish my opponent good luck.
Debate Round No. 1
JonathanSmits

Pro

Well done! but I never said that it was a chicken egg !

I'm sure a T-REX laid an egg before the idea of a chicken was even thought of.

THEREFORE, the egg came first.

See what happens when you assume ? it makes an A*S out of U and ME ;)
I-am-a-panda

Con

Bah, you just wasted a good debate sir!

However, I have found a clear flaw in my opponents logic:

Chickens have been recorded being around since 7000 B.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org...)

However, T-rex first formed in 1967, and I doubt their ability to lay eggs. (http://en.wikipedia.org...(band))

Therefore, the egg of a T-rex could not have come before 7000 b.c., if the band formed in 1967.
Debate Round No. 2
JonathanSmits

Pro

A worthy opponent has appeared !

Although that was good for a laugh, a T-Rex was just an example of a dinosaur.

And a dinosaur is just an example of an egg laying species that is older then chickens. Birds did evolve from dinos you know ;)

my point still stands, the first egg, no matter what it was layed from, is older then chickens
I-am-a-panda

Con

Bah, this debate was somewhat pointless. Therefore, enjoy some music:
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by ccstate4peat 7 years ago
ccstate4peat
I already did this
Posted by I-am-a-panda 7 years ago
I-am-a-panda
Natural selection my friend.
Posted by rangersfootballclub 7 years ago
rangersfootballclub
according to evoultion fish evovled from microisims/germs which don't.
Posted by I-am-a-panda 7 years ago
I-am-a-panda
Cording to evolution, we evolved from Fish, which lay eggs.
Posted by rangersfootballclub 7 years ago
rangersfootballclub
yes but i can almsot gaurantee it if the follwoign theroy is correct.

if all life started from germs , then logically germs dont lay eggs and evolved into an animal that lays eggs.
Posted by I-am-a-panda 7 years ago
I-am-a-panda
First egg? Probably a dinosaur.
Posted by rangersfootballclub 7 years ago
rangersfootballclub
who said anything about a chicken ?
Posted by I-am-a-panda 7 years ago
I-am-a-panda
A bird-like species similar to the chicken, but not a chicken.
Posted by rangersfootballclub 7 years ago
rangersfootballclub
lol not bad debate quiet funny.

however on a serious point , if the egg came first , who laid it ?
Posted by mongoose 7 years ago
mongoose
Actually, some of the first organisms before any creature capable of laying eggs were probably cowards, and therefore, chickens!
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