The Instigator
Zbojnik
Con (against)
The Contender
tumeric
Pro (for)

The Flying Spaghetti Monster (blessed be His Noodly Appendage) is not a real God.

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Started: 1/23/2017 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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Zbojnik

Con

Pro should be able to rationally explain why my creator and savior (blessed be His Noodly Appendage) is not a God as good as any.

Looking forward for the debate.
tumeric

Pro

Accept. Go for it.
Debate Round No. 1
Zbojnik

Con

Thank you for participating in the debate. For clarification of what I mean by God and religion I will provide definitions from Oxford Dictionary:

God:
1. (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being
2.(in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.
3.An image, animal, or other object worshipped as divine or symbolizing a god

religion:
1.The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods
2.A particular system of faith and worship
3.A pursuit or interest followed with great devotion

From these definitions it is clear that Pastafarianism fits the definition of religion perfectly. Pastafarians believe in The Flying Spaghetti Monster (blessed be his Noodliness) who created The Universe as we know it (see the definition of 'God'). Their central believes are all written down in The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster holy book of Pastafarians (simillary to the way Bible is the holy book for Christians) where it is clearly written that he is in fact a God despite the fact that he is unobservable. Among other similarities with other 'mainstream' religions is our celebration of every Friday, that is a holy day for us the same way Sunday is such a day for Christians. While religion in particular was not a part of the original debate topic I felt the need to mention it as it is very closely related to the the 'potential' Godness of The Flying Spaghetti Monster (blesses be He for He boiled for our sins).

I think at this point we have established that The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the creator of all that is, thus He logically also has powers that from our point of view are supernatural and He is worshiped by many people across the world (100 000 holy books have been sold to believers all over the world)[1]. This fits the definition of the term God perfectly therefore is a sufficient proof.

Some people might object that The Flying Spaghetti Monster (may His meatballs never get cold) is not truly a God for He is not actually worshiped by people and is meant as a satiric representation of other Gods and churches. To those people I would like tell two things. First one is that you will most likely end up in hell where the beer is always stale. And second is that if he or she can, he/she should scientifically prove that this is true for every single Pastafarian who professes his/her believe. If he or she can't do that than I or anyone else for that matter could claim that Gods such as Allah are also merely satirical representations of older Gods and religions and so on.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org...
tumeric

Pro

Some people might object that The Flying Spaghetti Monster (may His meatballs never get cold) is not truly a God for He is not actually worshiped by people and is meant as a satiric representation of other Gods and churches."

Bingo. Boy this debate is easy.

"if he or she can, he/she should scientifically prove that this is true for every single Pastafarian who professes his/her believe."

False premise. One person's belief doesn't make a god or religion real, just like me declaring that I have a right to a million dollars isn't as real as your right to a fair trial.

We know that the great religions were not meant in a satirical way for at least two reasons. One, we know generally how religions emerged -- they wrote books on what they believed. Two, they produced things worthy of reverence -- whereas Pastafarianism doesn't have its own architectural style, musical style, etc. There aren't any devotional texts with gold leaf that took hundreds of man-hours to create dedicated to spaghetti.

In conclusion, the whole Pastafarian metaphor is a straw man and tautology because you're substituting something obviously random and stupid for religion to show that religion is random and stupid.
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Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
Anything we call a god...Is a god..Otherwise any god would not be possible.
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