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muslimnomore
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The Governor is not dead

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Started: 12/2/2013 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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muslimnomore

Pro

The Governor from the popular tv show "The Walking Dead" is not really dead. Her are some arguments to prove my point and some to argue against the idea that he definitely died.

1. His new girlfriend is shown holding a gun, but they do not show her shooting the governor himself. It may be possible that she just ended up shooting a walker nearby. Or perhaps she just shot the ground near him because she could not muster the courage to kill her lover. Please note that the governor's new girlfriend (I think her name is Lilly?) is an experienced nurse.

2. Earlier in the episode a character talks about an "exit wound". When his friends spot the wound he says that this is a good thing. Perhaps Michonne's sword missed the governors vital organs completely and did not cause much internal damage.

3. The governor is a very important character in the show. It is hard to believe that they would just allow such a good character to die so early in the show. Merle Dixon was also once shown to be stuck to a pipe with a handcuff but he survived and came back for a few more episodes. This boosted the show's ratings. I think a similar comeback from the governor would be too great of an opportunity to pass over.

4. The fact that Michonne just walks away without finishing the govrnor off (I know that sounds sexual) is a classical mistake that many writers have had their characters make. If you do not finish off the bad guy comprehensively, he WILL come back. It's a rule.

5. Basically, I am just mad because this is the only that ever happened in a tv show that I didn't see coming (I might be exaggerating here). I totally saw Herschelle's head slicing coming.
Tophatdoc

Con

****SPOILER ALERT********SPOILER ALERT************

The Pro side should of warned voters of the possibility of spoilers. But on the contrary to my opponent, I believe the governor is 110%. I have read the series of the Walking Dead. There are some differences but there are many similarities.

"His new girlfriend is shown holding a gun, but they do not show her shooting the governor himself"
1. In the comic book of the Walking Dead, it is Lily who kills him actually. On the Talking Dead, Robert Kirkman said he had changed his mind about who was going to impair and kill the Governor. That is why he had Michonne impale him with the katana rather than have Lilly kill him. Lilly is not the Governor's girlfriend either. In fact, Lilly is a bisexual in the tv series because she has started developing a relationship with another female in the Governor's group. Remember, Lilly was not engaging in the firefight between the Governor's group and Rick's people. In fact, Lilly was hiding behind a vehicle. She was sympathetic to the negotiation that Rick wanted with the Governor. The Governor didn't want it so he executed Hershel. So why wouldn't Lilly kill the Governor after he caused so much trouble?

http://walkingdead.wikia.com...

"The governor is a very important character in the show. It is hard to believe that they would just allow such a good character to die so early in the show."
2. It would be great of the Governor could return but he is powerless and his group was eradicated at the prison. The prison and many of the prison saga characters are forgotten entirely after the fall of the prison in the comic book. There are more important villains than the Governor. The Governor has to die in order for these new villains to come into play. Plus how would the Governor have survived after being impaled in the left breast and shot. The Governor would have to escape the zombies that are all over the prison.

"The fact that Michonne just walks away without finishing the govrnor off (I know that sounds sexual) is a classical mistake that many writers have had their characters make. If you do not finish off the bad guy comprehensively, he WILL come back. It's a rule."
3. No, he is dead. Lilly put a bullet in him. Robert Kirkman confirmed his death on the Talking Dead.

"Basically, I am just mad because this is the only that ever happened in a tv show that I didn't see coming (I might be exaggerating here). I totally saw Herschelle's head slicing coming."
4. If you thought the Governor was a shocker. Wait till you see the character, Negan.
Debate Round No. 1
muslimnomore

Pro

********************WARNING: SPOILERS BELOW***********************8888

I researched this Negan character and I have to say you have convinced me that I am probably wrong in suggesting the governor is not dead. I actually didn't know the governor dies before the 100th issue in the comics. I thought his character lasts longer. I now think that it was the right time to kill off the governor and make way for the eventual unveiling of the Negan character. I am excited to see who it will be. In short, I am conceding.

I will say though that you are wrong about the character who killed the governor in the tv show. Lilly is in fact the governor's love interest (the kissed and slept together a few times on the show). Lilly's sister is the one who is in love with the female from the governor's new group. Lilly (the character who brings her dead daughter to the governor) is the character who kills the governor in the show.

Thanks for the information. I can't wait until February.
Tophatdoc

Con

Your right, I was confusing characters between novel and the tv show. I don't know the name of Lilly's sister but it seems she killed the governor in that case, in the tv show I mean.

I am very excited for the arrival of Negan and when the series comes back in February.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by 2-D 3 years ago
2-D
Ok thanks, I'll skip it then. Great game too, sounds like I'll have to read the novel.
Posted by Tophatdoc 3 years ago
Tophatdoc
@2-D, Be careful if you read, I added other spoilers from the novel.
Posted by 2-D 3 years ago
2-D
Half kidding, glad to know he may die at the end of the episode. I'll read your argument after I finish the episode.
Posted by muslimnomore 3 years ago
muslimnomore
don't believe anything here. it's all bullsh*t. #hopingthathelps.
Posted by muslimnomore 3 years ago
muslimnomore
Damn, i didn't even think about that. Sorry.
Posted by 2-D 3 years ago
2-D
G## damnit spoilers! I'm watching it right now lol, I just started. I read the first line b4 I realized what this was about.
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