The Instigator
GSix
Pro (for)
Tied
0 Points
The Contender
Rexclusivo
Con (against)
Tied
0 Points

The "Ground Zero Mosque" should be permitted to be built.

Do you like this debate?NoYes-1
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 0 votes the winner is...
It's a Tie!
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/9/2010 Category: News
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,105 times Debate No: 13595
Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (4)
Votes (0)

 

GSix

Pro

Just like gay marriage, this is another controversial topic that involves whether or not something is morally right. I strongly believe that Muslims have every right to build that mosque. To deny them this right is a violation of what the United States stands for, freedom of religion.

This is because you are denying Muslims a place of worship, solely because of their religion. Now, if it were a church, I'm sure society would have reacted in a much different way.

Not only is it unconstitutional, it is insensitive. Al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked the planes, and Al-Qaeda terrorists killed those innocent civilians. Just because several radical terrorists attacked us, that does not make all Muslims responsible for 9/11. It is terrible that society is beginning to describe the two together. In fact the Muslim community makes up about 1.57 billion people. Of that 1.57 billion, less than 1% are apart of Al-Qaeda. There is no reason to punish Muslims for the heinous acts committed by these terrorists. To further this point, there's the fact that not only were the hijackers Muslim, however so were some of the victims. There are over 31 confirmed deaths of Muslim-Americans, who died as victims of 9/11. The families of these victims deserve a place to commemorate their loved ones. just like all of the other victims families.

Finally, there's always the point that has come up in many topics, "Does by them building a mosque affect you in any way?" The only people this building will affect is the Muslims who will finally have a place to worship.

There is no doubt, this mosque has every right to stand free and tall among the New York skyline.
Rexclusivo

Con

Mr. Speaker and members of this house including my worthy opponent, a pleasant day to all of you!

I. Clash

Although we deeply recognize that there is a need for the Federal Government to serve equal treatment for all of the religions exist in the American soil, and even discriminate no one at all, the idea of a 'principled compromise' between the group of American-Muslims who back the creation of Park51 and the relatives of American citizens who died in the 9/11 attacks is still attainable at the end of the day. According to the grieving victims, the only question that they are asking repeatedly is pretty simple, "why does the place of establishment of the aforementioned Muslim Cultural Center, of all of the places in the soil of the state of New York, should be in the lot 2 blocks away from Ground Zero?" Ground Zero is the place where the relatives of victims visit every week together with their families. The place that always stigmatizes them of the event that they will never forget, and perhaps forgive. The place wherein some of them are still seeking for justice that can be very difficult to achieve if not impossible. Even if the relative victims are not anti-Muslims, we believe that the said establishment will be very uncomfortable and uneasy for both parties that may even lead to street riots in the future and escalate the tensions between the two adherent groups.

We were not saying that Muslims does not have the right to establish any mosque in the United States, for freedom of religion is one of the primary bastions of democracy in the United States. We were not also saying that the establishment is illegal since according to the mayor of New York City, it is lawfully otherwise. What we are calling for is just a bit of 'ethical sensitivity' coming from the creators of the establishment. This is the greater intrinsic value that we need to recognize in this debate.

II. Counter proposition

Our counter-proposal is clear, that the creators of the Cordoba House could build a Mosque anywhere in the soil of the New York City State as long as it is considerably a bit far from the Ground Zero site, no need to mention how many kilometers will it be away, as long as it is intrinsically far. Furthermore, we have three questions that we want to post in this debate? Firstly, is it really necessary that the venue of the mosque should be near the site of Ground Zero? Never mind the abundance of lots in the northern part of the state, perhaps near Bronx or Albany. Second, since the Federal government recognizes the right of Muslims to install any venue to worship in the American soil, could not they just be requested to have a 'little bit' of sensitivity to the victims and for the sake of consideration, move to another place within the state's soil? Especially the Muslims will not lose any value if they just move a 'little bit' except if the proposition could prove to this house why does the erection should be extremely near the Ground Zero. Lastly, isn't it the proposal could gradually increase the hostility of victims to the Muslims, that could lead to greater unimaginable harms?

III. Rebuttal

But before we move on, let us first deal with a tinge of argumentation coming from the proposition side. First, the speaker told us that the Al Qaeda suicide bombers who committed the terrorist act a decade ago are not representatives of the whole Islamic Religion. Our answer is yes, they do not clearly announced to all of the adherents of the religion that they will represent them in this attack. But the point is that their premise of attacking the center, and the sole reason of the suicide bomber who committed such in Israel and other attacks across the globe is of the justification that if they will do this for the Allah, which is the primary icon of Islam, then they will go to the heavens. This is the main predicament why the victims are very much emotionally affected to the proposed Park51.

IV. Arguments (next rd)
Debate Round No. 1
GSix

Pro

I would first like to thank my opponent for accepting this challenge. You are a very formidable opponent and

Ever since the sad day in which the towers fell, society has become almost afraid of fellow Islamic citizens. By moving this mosque, they are almost giving into the mob and accepting defeat. I feel that by building this mosque, those against it's erection will see that by having the mosque their, it will not affect their lives at all. It actually would improve many peoples lives because the building is not just a place of worship, it is also a complete community center that can be used by anybody. And so although they at first be angered by it, however it may lead to them becoming more acceptive of Islamic culture. This would also hopefully prevent the rioting.
Rexclusivo

Con

Rexclusivo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
GSix

Pro

GSix forfeited this round.
Rexclusivo

Con

Rexclusivo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
4 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 4 records.
Posted by losedotexe 6 years ago
losedotexe
I'd take it if I could be pro :P
Good luck finding a challenger, !
Posted by InsertNameHere 6 years ago
InsertNameHere
Change the voting period to 1 month and the arguing time to the max and I'll accept.
Posted by jat93 6 years ago
jat93
Hey, i'm currently in the same (similar) debate. good luck if anyone picks it up.
Posted by InsertNameHere 6 years ago
InsertNameHere
I may accept this. I haven't really been into debating much lately, but I may accept this one.
No votes have been placed for this debate.