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The Judeo Christian God Enslaves, Slaughters and Treats Unfairly

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Started: 3/15/2015 Category: Religion
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I will argue that the Judeo Christian God slaughters humans, promotes slavery and deals unfairly.

Unfair: disproportionate; undue; beyond what is proper or fitting [1]

BoP is on me.

First Round - Acceptance
Secound Round - Argument / Rebuttal
Third Round - Closing statements / Rebuttal (No new arguments)

Thanks and best of luck to Con!


I accept your challenge and look forward to the debate.
Debate Round No. 1


Unfair Punishment -

Argument 1: Hell

The punishment for sin is eternity[1] in Hell, this punishment is irreversible [2]

What is Hell like?

> You will not be allowed to sleep [2]
> You will be eaten by immortal worms and burnt by unquenchable fire. [3]
> It's a lake of fire. [4]
> There will darkness. There will be the sound of weeping and gnashing of teeth.[5]

Who is going there? - This is where it gets unfair:

1) Everyone that doesn't believe in the Christian Christ - That's right; Gandhi, that soldier that threw himself on the grenade to save his whole unit, and the guy that pushed the child out of the way of the bus... If you don't believe in Christ, you go to Hell for eternity, even if you never stole, murdered, lied, been unfaithful, doesn't matter...[6]
2) Did you look at the opposite sex with lust? [7]
4) Do you eat shellfish or pork? [9]
5) Ever been drunk or jealous, done something selfish, hated someone (even if they deserved it) or used fortune telling / astrology? [8]
6) Are you gay or bisexual? [8]
8) Have you ever ejaculated while not in a woman or used any birth control (wasted your seed). Fun note, God killed the guy who did it and then sent him to hell baha! [10]
9) Got a tattoo or earrings? [11]
10) Worn polyester or any other fabric blend? [12]
11) Gotten a divorce? [13]
12) Worn a gold gift? [14]
And much more...

Ultimately, everyone has sinned. God unfairly sees us as guilty before proven innocent. [15] I would tend to agree with him, but does the crime match the punishment? Should we be eternally eaten alive by immortal demon worms while simultaneously on fire because we... ate shellfish?

Argument 2: Jesus' Death

Lets look at Jesus' death:

After being beaten by the Jews while heading to the Roman pre-torture, Jesus was under such intense stress that he bled from his sweat glands.[16] Once Jesus reached pre-crucifixion he was mutilated with an array of wickedly engineered Roman torture weapons such as the 'cat of nine tails' a whip designed to cut the flesh from it's victims then had a torture crown made of thorns forced onto his head. On his severely lacerated back he was forced to carry the wooden beam that would soon be the instrument of his death. Finally reaching the hill his hands and feed were nailed to the cross etc, etc.

Here is where it gets bizarre and unfair, God did all of this stuff to his son so he could justify forgiving humanity. If my neighbor ate shellfish and I severely tortured, mutilated and crucified my son so I could forgive my neighbors shelfish consumption I'd be hailed as the world's most thorough psychopath.

Argument 3: Other Unfair Notions

Wife defend you in a fight? Cut her hand off.
> "When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand." Deuteronomy 25:11-12

> "Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys." 2 Kings 2:23-25 NIV

> No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord. Deuteronomy 23:1 ESV So if by some unfortunate accident this happens to you, you're not welcome in church.

> Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT) Hell of a justice system...

> Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

> Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)


1) "You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

2) "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property." (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

3) "
If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever." (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

4) "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment." (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

5) "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

6) "Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them." (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)


Elijah, prophet of God was mocked by 42 young men - he had them mauled to death by bears by the power of God - 2Kings 2:24

Conclusion - God is guilty of slaughter, injustice (unfair) and encourages slavery.

I've reached my 8k character count, I'll continue in the next round. Thanks to my opponent for accepting!

1) Daniel 12:2,3; Matthew 25:46; John 5:28; Revelation 20:14,15
2) Revelation 14:11

3) Isaiah 66:24:
4) Revelation 20:15
5) Matthew 8:12
6) Mark 16:16

7) Matthew 5:28
8) Galatians 5:19-21
9) Leviticus 11:9-12
10) Genesis 38:9-10

11) Leviticus 19:28
12) Leviticus 19:19
13) Mark 10:8
14) 1 Timothy 2:9
15) Romans 3:23
16) Luke 22:44



1.) Hell

God has done everything He possibly can to keep you out of Hell and still leave you as a person with free will and not just a robot. That's the way He made us--after His image, after His likeness, the power to say "yes" or the power to say "no" the power to reject our own Creator, and of course to take the consequences.

(John 15:13) Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.

This man you mention Gandhi. If he was a godly man and believed in God then obviously he would go to heaven. Let's say he raped hundreds of women and did this sacrifice. It is not up to us to decide if he goes to heaven or not, it's up to God. Same goes for pushing someone out of the way of the bus.

(Mark 7:14-23) When He had called all multitude to Himself, He said to them, "Hear Me, everyone, and understand: There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are the things that defile a man. If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!" When He had entered a house away from the crowd, His disciples asked Him concerning the the parable. So He said to them, "Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?" And he said, "What comes out of a man that defiles a man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within and defile a man." (So basically Jesus declared all foods clean.)

You might be thinking. The Bible says in Leviticus 19:28, "Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the Lord." How much clearer can that be? It's important, however, to look at the verse in context. This passage in Leviticus, including the surrounding text, is specifically dealing with the pagan religious rituals of the people living around the Israelites. God"s desire is to set his people apart from other cultures. The focus here is prohibiting worldly, heathen worship and witchcraft. God forbids his holy people to engage in idolatrous, pagan worship and sorcery which imitates the heathens. He does this out of protection, because he knows this will lead them away from the one true God.

Fabric blend? In addition to His eternal spiritual commandments, God gave Israel various statutes and judgments as part of its civil code or national law. Most aren't binding laws for Christians today, but Christians should consider and learn from the principles contained in all of them. Is there any principle in these laws or in their intended purpose that can guide Christians in everyday life?

In its introductory notes on Leviticus, Expositor's Bible Dictionary points out: "The weaving of two kinds of material (wool and linen in Deuteronomy:22:11) may be a rule that would prevent loss by unequal shrinkage." There is no apparent application today for two reasons: 1.) Most Christians do not make their own fabric or clothing today, and 2.) clothing manufacturers do not mix these materials.

However, the broader principle of the several statutes that forbid "mixing" in various ways is that God wanted His people to pursue purity and quality. Similarly, Christians are to pursue pure and godly character. The Jamieson, Fausset and Brown Commentary offers the following explanation for Leviticus:19:19:

(1 Peter 3:3) "Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel""

(1 Timothy 2:9) "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array""

What exactly are Peter and Paul teaching in these verses? They are simply teaching that Christians should be more concerned with beautifying the inward man than beautifying the outward man. They are teaching that as Christians, we should not be overly concerned with outward beauty. Jewelry, like every other good thing from God, can and has been abused by carnal man.

It is important not to take one or two passages in isolation and make a doctrine out of them without first considering the entire weight of scriptural teachings. Doing so will inevitably lead to errant teachings and inaccurate assumptions about God"s word. These verses that deal with outward modesty are certainly no exception. A careful and honest evaluation of all relevant scriptures reveals that Paul is not forbidding the use of jewelry; he is merely instructing us to use it in moderation and to place the greater emphasis on inward adorning.

2.) Jesus' Death

From the beginning, Satan wanted to ruin mankind, the highest and best of God"s creation. So he entered a serpent and tempted Eve to disobey God. Then she convinced her husband to join her. At that moment, Adam and all his children through the ages became slaves to sin and were condemned to separation from God.

But God promised to settle that account with the devil. God told the serpent, "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel" (Gen. 3:15 NIV).

You will notice that God referred to the woman"s offspring, not the man"s. Jesus was born of a virgin. When He died on the cross, He defeated the devil and the power of sin by offering Himself as the perfect and final blood sacrifice. His shed blood atoned for the sins of the whole world and satisfied the justice of God, once and for all.

No longer would people be powerless against sin and the devil"s schemes. No longer would they have to be separated from God. As a physical reminder of that, at the moment when Jesus died on the cross, an earthquake shook Jerusalem. In the holiest part of the temple the huge, thick curtain separating people from the presence of God tore in two from top to bottom. It was as though God was saying to us, "Now you may come to Me, because my Son has opened the way."

When Jesus hung on that cross dying, He suffered for your sins, not because He had to, but because He wanted to.

"Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13 NIV).

3.) Murder

God did indeed often use warfare as an instrument of justice. In the Old Testament era, the people that God commanded Israel to fight against had often committed extremely wicked acts.

It"s important to recognize that God did not randomly "pick on" innocent people. Rather, he often used Israel to execute justice upon offenders who had committed acts that even modern people would call evil. This kind of justice values the lives of victims by acting on their behalf, and it values the lives of offenders by taking their actions seriously and dealing with them in the context of their place in human society.

However, though God sometimes used warfare to bring justice upon entire societies and political structures, this does not mean he judged every specific person who was part of that group. The societal values that produced these detestable acts were the target of God"s actions. Unfortunately, some "innocent" people faced the consequences, but such, regrettably, are the ramifications of living in a world entirely corrupted by human evil.

The law that God gave to Moses also instructed the Israelites to offer peace before attacking a city. God even told Abraham that he would not destroy the wicked cities of Sodom and Gomorrah if there were as few as ten righteous people living there. When Jesus came to make God"s character and message most fully known, he preached about love and forgiveness, then demonstrated those values toward his own enemies. I can't really finish what I am trying to say, maybe next round. Thanks again for the challenge.
Debate Round No. 2


Thanks to Con for proving a motivated opponent!

Rebuttal 1: Free Will Justifies?

My opponent seems to argue that because God gave us free will to choose Hell (believe in the man alleging to be his son or not) he is justified for sending us there to be eternally eaten alive by demon worms while burning in a lake of fire. I argue that slim to no punishment is worth an eternity in such a horrendous torture facility allowed to exist by God himself.

It boils down to fairness:

1) Is it fair for a modern human to be damned to horrific eternal torture for not believing in a millenia old book which as my opponent points out, contradicts itself (shell fish, etc) and has many alternatives (different religions and religious texts claiming the same things) as well as contradicts scientific evidences (carbon dating, big bang, fossil record, etc)?
2) Is it fair that God couldn't make up his mind so those before Jesus must burn in hell for the two things Con managed to rebutt (shellfish / multiple fabrics)?
3) Is it fair that humans during the time of Jesus got to see amazing miracles and therefore believed but we in modern times do not and must be eternally damned for not believing?
4) Is it fair that anyone really suffer eternally for sinful actions done over less than a century long lifetime? The answer is painfully clear, none of it is justice.

Rebuttal 2: Shellfish

As Con pointed out, Jesus did refute his father and revoked the ban on shellfish. This proves God both willing to send people to Hell for things he isn't even sure about himself... Making him unfair and hypocritical.

Argument 1: Extending

I extend all of the verses that Con did not recognize in his rebuttal, here's one of my favorite examples: "Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys." 2 Kings 2:23-25 NIV

Argument 2: More Verses for Consideration

Judges 11:29-40 Jephthah sacrifices his virgin daughter to the God without a mention of any displeasure from God, so it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter.

1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT
Pagan priests offered as brunt sacrifice to God - the Josiah the perpetrator - was praised in the Bible for this (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT).

Ezekiel 21:33-37 NAB God promises to slaughter us and make us fuel for fire if we don't do what he wants us to.

Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT - God commands that if any town worship foreign gods the entire town should become a burtn offering.

God's Justice System:

Leviticus 20:13 NAB Homosexuals must be put to death.

Leviticus 20:27 NAB Fortunetellers must be put to death.

Exodus 21:15 NAB If you hit your dad, you must die. (just let your dad beat your mother to death)

Leviticus 21:9 NAB Commit adultery? You must die.

2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB Don't believe in the right version of God? You must die.

Zechariah 13:3 NAB Nobody beleives you're a 'real' prophet? Your parents must kill you.

Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB Did you find out your wife wasn't a virgin on her wedding night? Bring her in front of her father's home and stone her to death.

Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB If a friend or family member try to convert you to a different religion, you must kill him.

Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT Did anyone near you worship a God other than that depicted in the Bible, Kill em'.

Numbers 1:48-51 NLT Ever approach a Tabernacle? You gotta die.

Exodus 31:12-15 NLT Ever work on the Sabbath, you must die. (Jesus did contradict his father and excuse us from doing good deeds on the Sabbath but not from working.

1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT A guy refused to strike the prophet so he was mauled to death by a lion by the power of God.

2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB The famous ark of God was saved from tipping by one of it's carriers and God killed him for touching it.

Lovely Verses on Children

Kill Sons of Sinners

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children

The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

God Kills all the First Born of Egypt

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

Kill Old Men and Young Women

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)

More Rape and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

Conclusion: God is guilty of slaughter, injustice (unfair) and encourages slavery.


Humanity is corrupted by sin, and that sin is always directly against God. When David sinned by committing adultery with Bathsheba and having Uriah murdered, he responded with an interesting prayer: "Against you, you only, have I sinned and done what is evil in your sight"" (Psalm 51:4). Since David had sinned against Bathsheba and Uriah, how could he claim to have only sinned against God? David understood that all sin is ultimately against God. God is an eternal and infinite Being (Psalm 90:2). As a result, all sin requires an eternal punishment. God"s holy, perfect, and infinite character has been offended by our sin. Although to our finite minds our sin is limited in time, to God"who is outside of time"the sin He hates goes on and on. Our sin is eternally before Him and must be eternally punished in order to satisfy His holy justice.

The realities of eternal damnation, eternal hell, and eternal punishment are frightening and disturbing. But it is good that we might, indeed, be terrified. While this may sound grim, there is good news. God loves us (John 3:16) and wants us to be saved from hell (2 Peter 3:9). But because God is also just and righteous, He cannot allow our sin to go unpunished. Someone has to pay for it. In His great mercy and love, God provided His own payment for our sin. He sent His Son Jesus Christ to pay the penalty for our sins by dying on the cross for us. Jesus" death was an infinite death because He is the infinite God/man, paying our infinite sin debt, so that we would not have to pay it in hell for eternity (2 Corinthians 5:21). If we confess our sin and place our faith in Christ, asking for God"s forgiveness based on Christ"s sacrifice, we are saved, forgiven, cleansed, and promised an eternal home in heaven. God loved us so much that He provided the means for our salvation, but if we reject His gift of eternal life, we will face the eternal consequences of that decision.

Why did God give such a command? Israel was God"s instrument of judgment against the Canaanites, who were evil, almost beyond what we can imagine today: "Every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods" (Deuteronomy 12:31). Their utter annihilation was commanded to prevent Israel from following their ways: "Lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the LORD your God" (Deuteronomy 20:18; also Deuteronomy 12:29-30).

Even in the dire judgments of the Old Testament, God offered mercy. For example, when God was about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, God promised Abraham that He would spare the whole city in order to save ten righteous people there. Though God did destroy those cities (ten righteous people could not be found), He saved "righteous Lot" and his family (Genesis 18:32; Genesis 19:15; 2 Peter 2:7). Later, God destroyed Jericho, but He saved Rahab the harlot and her family in response to Rahab"s faith (Joshua 6:25; Hebrews 11:31). Until the final judgment, there is always mercy to be found.

Every person dies in God"s own time (Hebrews 9:27; Genesis 3:19). Jesus holds the keys of death (Revelation 1:18). Does the fact that everyone experiences physical death make God a "killer"? In the sense that He could prevent all death, yes. He allows us to die. But He is no murderer. Death is part of the human experience because we brought it into the world ourselves (Romans 5:12). One day, as John Donne put it, "Death shall be no more; death, thou shalt die." God, in His grace, has conquered death for those who are in Christ, and one day that truth will be fully realized: "The last enemy to be subdued and abolished is death" (1 Corinthians 15:26).

God is faithful to His word. He will destroy the wicked, and He holds "the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment" (2 Peter 2:9). But He has also promised that "the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 6:23b).

We do not have to suffer in hell. God will forgive us if we truly repent for our sins. Anyways it is kind of hard to explain to you the nature of God, the nature of man, and the nature of sin. Thanks again to my opponent for the challenge.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by PointlessQuestions 2 years ago
The Idea That All People Who Have Not Accepted Christ Go To Hell Is Different Between Catholics And Protestants.
Posted by PickUp_Artist 3 years ago
Haha okay man you too...
Posted by Interloped 3 years ago
It doesn't surprise me at all. Good talk PickUp, keep believing what you will. Just don't go cutting women's hands off, raping, killing nonbelievers or summoning bears to maul children that call you baldy
and we will get along well.
Posted by PickUp_Artist 3 years ago
Wow I can't believe nobody voted...
Posted by Interloped 3 years ago
That's true, as I said. Any new arguments in round 3 from me should be dismissed. If voters deem it necessary they may give conduct to Con due to my mistake.
Posted by PickUp_Artist 3 years ago
You said in the rules round 3 can have no new arguments so...
Posted by Interloped 3 years ago
I just realized that my presentation of new verses could be considered new argument. At the beginning, I indicated this should not be done based off the etiquette I've seen on previous debates. It's only fair that Con be allowed the same privileged at very least, I hope that the voters of DDO will be merciful on me. I'm still very new to this site and am doing my best to remember proper etiquette. Thanks again to Con and those willing to read and vote on our debate!
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