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Shark34
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guyawesome1
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The Legend of Zelda is Nintendo's greatest property

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Started: 2/26/2016 Category: Games
Updated: 11 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Shark34

Pro

Though many Nintendo titles have come in past and present, no series is as good as the genre defying generations spanning Legend of Zelda series.
guyawesome1

Con

I do not believe legend of Zelda is Nintendo's greatest property because Mario is Nintendo's longest running franchise (source listverse) Mario has appeared in other 200 games. Pokemon is also a very important piece of intellectual property for Nintendo because not only are the games hugely successful but so are the trading cards. Pokemon may be designed by game freak but Nintendo does own Pokemon. so therefore i do not believe the legend of Zelda is Nintendo greatest property.
Debate Round No. 1
Shark34

Pro

Though you bring up great points about longest running and most valuable properties, many of those Mario titles are cheap cash trap spinoffs such as Mario Party 5-now, Mario tennis games, Mario golf, and virtually every other sport in existence. Some of these games are good, but many are mediocre to terrible.

Pokemon is a very powerful driving force for Nintendo. It is of their most profitable franchises, and for good reason. It provides simple, graspable RPGs and a similarly functioning TCG. It is accessible, and fun. However, neither franchise stands up to the Legend of Zelda.

The Legend of Zelda series is a timeless group of powerful games that revolutionized a genre. While Mario was released parallel to Megaman, and there were hundreds of RPG's by the time Pok"mon arrived, the Legend of Zelda was the first true adventure game. Then Ocarina of Time invented z-targeting and created the first true 3D adventure game. The Legend of Zelda series constantly pushes the envelope of what a non FPS action adventure title is.

Zelda turns 30 this August in America, and already has in Japan. According to Zelda Indormer, which cited Nintendo financial releases, it has sold 70 million copies of video games for a huge amount of money, not including merchandise. Though Mario and Pokemon are iconic, mainstream, and forever more popular for their accessibility, the Zelda fan base is massive, and the games are revolutionary.
guyawesome1

Con

Although the Legend of Zelda is a great game i do not believe it is Nintendo's greatest property because of these reasons

It is not Nintendo's only action RPG they have like final fantasy. Although Legend of Zelda may have a large fan base so is the same for almost every one of Nintendo's games

May I remind you of Nintendo's history a little they were until relatively recently a trading card company selling mainly Pokemon cards then they decided to start making video games in 1972 they decided to turn themselves into a video game company which is very successful but they would never have been able to if the Pokemon cards had failed therefore i believe Pokemon is their most important property.

On the other hand Mario not link or Zelda is the company logo.
Debate Round No. 2
Shark34

Pro

First off, Final Fantasy is not Nintendo, it is Sqaure. Also, it isn't the same genre as Zelda, it is the same genre as your precious Pokemon. Nintendo also didn't rely on Pokemon TCG for money, as that was third party created. In addition to this, Nintendo was doing well before Pokemon, with 120 million units sold of the NES and SNES. Maybe you should do more research next round.
guyawesome1

Con

first off my opponent claimed in round two that many of Mario's games are cash trap spin offs of sports while many of those games give me great memorys of spending hours upon hours of playing games like super mario strikers and super mario baseball with my friends. I bought my gamecube after playing super mario strikers with my friend billie and got that game and for 3 or 4 months that was all i did me and billie litteraly studied recordings of the games in order to be able to counter eachothers tactics. Since we were so young we never found anything useful but that just goes to show how much fun we had with that game. We both had training routines mine was 30 minutes practice shooting (practice timer for super strikes) then 45 mins plays (crosses setting up for super strikes and so on) 30 mins defense (this was done with my brother who also follwed a simular training exercise he did offense) 30 mins offense (i did offense brother did defense) this was done on a daily basis and i dont think you had a training for your precious legend of zelda.

Their is no pro league for legend of zelda because frankly no one cares while games like super smash bros (melee, project m and wii u version) pokemon and mario kart do.

secondly as you said they sold 120 million units of the nes and snes showing they are also important property (thanks for the prompt) because they were able to become as large of a company as they are now because of the nes and snes not because of legend of zelda.

great is defined as important; highly significant or consequential although legend of zelda may be a very well made game it is not very significant for them because Nintendo had already been in existence for 117 years founded in 1889 legend of Zelda created 2006. Nintendo had been going strong for at-least 60 years by then.

these are the reasons that i believe legend of zelda is not Nintendo's greatest property
Debate Round No. 3
Shark34

Pro

This argument is a pure rebuttal. Next round I will make more actuall arguments.

1. If Nintendo was created in 1889, nullifying video games entirely (which that fact doesn't), no video games that you argue are more consequential than Zelda are consequential at all.

2. The Legend of Zelda TWIGHLIGHT PRINCESS came out 2006. The series started in 1986, making it almost as old as Mario.

3. There is no competitive forum because the games are mostly single player. To say the Legend of Zelda series is bad for lack of multiplayer is essentially to say that RPGs and platformers are bad for not being multiplayer.

4. The NES and SNES didn't sell themselves, video games sold them, and Zelda was a driving force.

5. If Nintendo is only important for its non video game merchandise, why did their first two consoles alone see 120 million units?

Your points are moot because you are wrong on so many fronts both statistically and logically, in your latest post and the one before that.
guyawesome1

Con

I do not believe legend of Zelda is Nintendo greatest property because it requires consoles to play it so therefore i believe the consoles are their greatest property because you wouldn't be able to play legend of Zelda or any other game for that matter without one.
Debate Round No. 4
Shark34

Pro

Shark34 forfeited this round.
guyawesome1

Con

guyawesome1 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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