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The Light Side of the Force is superior to the Dark Side

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Started: 2/1/2011 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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tvellalott

Pro

Resolution: The Light Side of the Force is superior to the Dark Side.
Round breakdown:
Round one- Accepting
Round two, three- Arguments, rebuttals
Round four- No new arguments, conclusion.

I look forward to this. I've been wanting to do a Star Wars debate since rewatching the Hexalogy.
mattrodstrom

Con

Thank you for proposing this most awesome debate.. and..

May the Force be with You! :)
Debate Round No. 1
tvellalott

Pro

tvellalott forfeited this round.
mattrodstrom

Con

We had decided to skip Round Two... and argue in rounds 3 and 4

Please read the below... *after it's been posted of course!*
Debate Round No. 2
tvellalott

Pro

Resolution: The Light side of the Force is superior than the Dark side.

ARGUMENTS


1: The easiest path to power is not necessarily the best:

Luke: “Is the Dark Side more powerful?”
Yoda: “No. Quicker, easier, more seductive it is.”

Case-in-point: Anakin Skywalker, newly dubbed Darth Vader in his battle against Obi-Won Kenobi.

It seems clear that Anakin was superior to Obi-Won prior to his immersion into the Dark Side:
They joke about how many times Anakin had saved his life.
He clearly out-matched Count Dooku, who had just obliterated Obi-Won moments before.
Obi-Won makes it clear how powerful he thinks Anakin is several times.

However when they battle on Mustafar, Obi-Won defeats him. This can be put down to over-confidence, a definite trait of the Dark Side.


2: Dude, what’s wrong with your face?!

Darth Sidius is one ugly dude [1]. Who wants to look like that?


3: The Dark side is not all corrupting:

Case-in-point: Darth Vader turns back to the Light side and killed the Emperor.

This is possibly my strongest argument. Despite killing hundreds of people, single-handedly destroying the Jedi order and leading the Empire for two decades, at the moment of importance, he turned back to the Light and killed the Emperor, much to his surprise. This is a major turning point for the whole Galaxy.


4: The abilities of the Dark Side are not restricted to Dark Side wielders:


Case-in-point: Luke Skywalker

-Uses the Force Choke during Episode VI.
-Uses Force Lightning in the Expanded Universe [2]


5: The associated emotions are as much a weakness as a strength.

Throughout the entire saga, we see all of the various Sith Lords defeated due to their over –confidence in the Dark Side. This can be put down to a lack of focus, stemming from their reliance on pride, anger and fear.

Case-in-point: Obi-Won versus Darth Maul

Darth Maul clearly beat Obi-Won, but his over-confidence leads to his death.


6: Inescapable Strife

This is an obvious one. The Jedi don’t have to fear each other; this trust in each other is a great strength. The Sith and other Dark Side wielders are the complete opposite. Anyone around the Dark Side wielders are unsafe, this is particularly the case in The Rule of Two: the only way to advance is to kill your master.


SOURCES


[1] http://sithsigma.files.wordpress.com...
[2] http://starwars.wikia.com...
mattrodstrom

Con

mattrodstrom forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
tvellalott

Pro

The force is weak with this one.

Extend arguments.

mattrodstrom

Con

mattrodstrom forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by tvellalott 3 years ago
tvellalott
Ok, sounds like a plan.
Posted by mattrodstrom 3 years ago
mattrodstrom
I'm thinking Re-do with 3 ;)

maybe... next week :/
Posted by tvellalott 3 years ago
tvellalott
LOL. Do you want to make it just one round, no rebuttals?
Posted by mattrodstrom 3 years ago
mattrodstrom
Ha!

You forfit and I say it's ok...

I forfeit... and you claim it's evidence the force is on your side 8!
Posted by Maikuru 3 years ago
Maikuru
Challenge me to this one too, tvellalott.
Posted by tvellalott 3 years ago
tvellalott
It's coming, don't worry! :D
Posted by tvellalott 3 years ago
tvellalott
I'll definately post this tomorrow night. Taking advantage of the extra time to smooth out my arguments.
Posted by mattrodstrom 3 years ago
mattrodstrom
we surely can.
Posted by tvellalott 3 years ago
tvellalott
I am most likely not going to make this. Can we cut one round of arguments out?
Posted by tvellalott 3 years ago
tvellalott
Everyone keeps saying that but I don't understand why...
Perhaps I'm going to be creamed in this debate... (IDONTTHINKSO!!!!!!!)
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro forfeited but came back with good arguments while Con forfeited twice.
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