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The Matrix theory"

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Started: 4/13/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Finalfan

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Warning I have made this debate impossible to accept. Present your challenge in the comments section and I will allow access. I do not want this debate to be trolled! Also I want to let you know that this is philosophy so it is easy to miss communicate, that is why it will be 5 rounds. I thought we could use the first couple of rounds to freestyle then we can really get into specifics by 3rd round!

I propose the following: I am using "The Matrix" to help communicate what I see. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong/crazy... but make sure you tell me why. I have not found any holes in this theory.

I have always wondered how people were so convinced in supernatural occurrences. I wondered why people believed in God. I also wondered why those beliefs were so different and often contradictory. I never really understood astrology or mysticism. I have friends that talk about Chakras and alchemy. People believe in miracles, magic, ghosts, astral projection, telekinesis, ascension... you see where I'm going? At one point man made up a God for anything when they did not have a natural answer available at that time. But as man chipped away at the mystery, it came to the final God that created and controls everything! But you cannot see God. You cannot be sure God is what you have imagined God to be. You can claim God is everything... but you cannot comprehend it! I sit and wonder about these ideas and I have to ask... where does it all come from? Where in our minds do we create such a mystical place? "The Matrix"!!!

I'm not talking about being used as a battery by machines.. I mean we have created a matrix in our minds that gives us: Angels, Demons, Gods, Devils, Fairies, Elves, the Boogeyman, Santa, Racism, Homophobia, Geocentric Flat Earth, stork theory, Jesus, Muhammad, Zeus, The Phoenix, Gandolph, Enchanted armor, Transformers, Harry Potter, and of course the popular movie starring Keanu Reeves.

The Matrix theory fits the model of predicting the eclectic nature of the human belief systems and imagination. In this "matrix" you are free from the harsh realities of "natural life".... especially 'ahem' Death (Heaven/Hell) The "matrix" is by far my favorite part of life and I do not diminish its importance. I only feel as though I see the line. I want to draw the line but it has not been properly scrutinized. I imagine my opponent will have some cliched response like "You don't know where I have been" or "I know MY God is real". This should not be your ammunition because it will only force you to blatantly lie to me and brick wall the debate! So be forwarned that individual experiences only help strengthen my argument. The only loophole I can see is that even my own belief in the "matrix" comes from the "matrix"... but then that means the "matrix exists".

Have you truly ever wondered why everyone thinks that they are the know all of the mysteries of this universe. Dont you tell yourself "everything outside of my belief system is "The Devil" or "Great Deceiver"? I'm telling you "God and the Devil"! ARE YOUR OWN CREATION.. collectively consuming the lives of Billions! Whoa got off topic there.. but you see where I'm going with this.

Here is my issue. I have a problem with my own beliefs. Remember the scene in the "Matrix" where Neo is asked to jump the building? Remember he does not "believe" he can do it.. So of course.. He falls.. well that's me!I do not have God, or Heaven, or knowledge of Chakras, magic, wonder, miracles! It is not a good system. It just is the only logical conclusion. My mind demands that I draw the line in the sand and say.. This is real.. my imagination is not!

So I leave it to my opponent to tell me exactly why I have it dead wrong. In fact I welcome anyone who can!
Pitbull15

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I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
Finalfan

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Pitbull15 2 years ago
Pitbull15
Unfortunately, problems with my computer wiped my whole argument out. I am typing from my phone, so this will jave to be an acceptance round. Lol i guess i could've used a little more elaboration anyway.
Posted by Finalfan 2 years ago
Finalfan
Yup go for it. I eagerly await your reply.. lol No but seriously.. do whatever you need! I will try my best to be a challenge to you and may the best man win and what not!
Posted by Pitbull15 2 years ago
Pitbull15
Alright, I'll freestyle it for this round. Do you mind if I get my argument prepared before I accept it? It's just more convenient for me as I get 7 days to do so. lol
Posted by Finalfan 2 years ago
Finalfan
All of my comments except for the last one was meant for Jameschance I was not challenging pitbull with the statement about knowing what is real... but it would definitely help him win this debate! lol
Posted by Finalfan 2 years ago
Finalfan
If you do not want to freestyle your opening argument you can use it as acceptance round and I will properly form my argument for 2nd round! I am not rigid at all. This should be fun!!!
Posted by Pitbull15 2 years ago
Pitbull15
And also, is round one an acceptance round?
Posted by Pitbull15 2 years ago
Pitbull15
Due to my own inevitable personal bias, I propose to show that I think I do know what's real.

Anyway, good luck!
Posted by Finalfan 2 years ago
Finalfan
BTW this debate was clearly meant for you. At the heart of it is Drawing your own line in the sand. So tell me. Do you have the line drawn a little too far across the magic pixie dust line? Do you know what is real?
Posted by Pitbull15 2 years ago
Pitbull15
Alright, no one accept this! I got this one. It looks like I've found another worthy opponent...
Posted by Finalfan 2 years ago
Finalfan
BTW Saying my ideas are not philosophy would be like telling someone their painting isn't art! You say I pose a "fantasy"! I agree but it still fits withing the predictive model of my argument! You then attack my knowledge of the movie and "pop culture inspiration.. which means you did not read my opening paragraph and missed my point by a light year!! Ever think.. just maybe.. you might have something to learn.. Come at me bro! :)
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