The Non-existence of God
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Again, you can't introduce these stories without everyone seeing it, Christianity and Islam were only accepted without any decisive proof because people wee forced by Constantine and Mohamed to believe their new religion, here is no evidence of Jews being forced to accept the Torah.
Also, DNA can hold more information than any computer that we have, and it holds it in the size of a molecule. If humans can't devise something that efficient, remind me again why it can happen on its own?
"I would also like to leave you with a paradox. If God (Or, if that offends you, G-d.) is omnibenevolent and omnipotent, and evil exists, then one of those can't be true. G-d would destroy the evil, right? The argument of "Free Will" doesn't explain this, because if free will existed, then G-d wouldn't be omniscient."
It all depends on your definition of G-d and who you're asking, if you ask the Christians they will say that evil comes fro Satan, the Buddhists/Sikhs say it comes from pride, G-d says this:
"See, I [God] have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil." - Deuteronomy 30:15
"I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I the Lord do all these things." - Isaiah 45:7
Basically, G-d created and allowed evil because things won't work without it, if humans aren't tested, they won't get better.
I'm also going to add some of my reasoning to why he doesn't exists here. Why was G-d present in everyday human life for thousands of years, but hasn't been heard or seen of since the development of solid record keeping? Also, how come there are no "updates"? Original religious texts support the idea of slavery and infer that men are better than women. We know these ideas now are wrong. But no changes have been made.
The Torah never supports the idea of slavery or says that men are better than women, infact if you read your book this should be evident; though the word used is "slavery" it really wasn't. First of all, you were never *forced* into servitude, you became an indentured servant by owing someone money. Second, you couldn't be held there forever, at most you would be a indentured servant for 7 years. Thirdly, you weren't property since your master couldn't beat you/sell you/etc. And in regards to men being better than women, this is nonsense, you should see Genesis 1:27 because it seems to be that women are equal to men.
In this last argument you deal not at all with the existence of G-d, since my arguments were not responded to, I will count them as dropped, I win thank you.
I only claimed that DNA proves G-d because of how efficiently it holds information in as little space as possible, which is better than any computer we have. Also, the appendix does serve a purpose- it is part of our immune system. Besides, just because we have genetic issues now doesn't mean that genetics were originally imperfect. As a matter o fact, I could say that all our genetic issues are caused by pollution, and this would have factual backing since cancer only began to appear in the 1890's and was unheard of up until then, then it gradually became more and more common.
Also, this debate isn't about evolution, it's about G-d existing.
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Vote Placed by Ockham 9 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: This was a difficult debate to judge because both sides did very well. I ended up giving the points for convincing arguments to Con, even though I am a convinced atheist, due to several mistakes on Pro's part. I will explain further in the comments. Again, this was very close.
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