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Labrat228
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The PS3 Is A Better Console Than The Xbox 360.

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Started: 8/16/2008 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Labrat228

Pro

The Topic: "The PS3 Is A Better Console Than The Xbox 360."
This happens to be my strong subject.
Because i have both a PS3 And an XBox 360.

first we will compare and contrast:

Sony PlayStation 3.
Sony's PS3 is the most expensive at $500-600, because it includes a standard hard drive, a high definition Blu-ray optical drive, HD video output, Bluetooth wireless controllers, and–in the premium version–WiFi wireless networking.

Sony is setting up the PS3 as a PC alternative. The premium model has a memory card reader for not only Sony's own Memory Stick but also–in what must be an incredible first for the company–Compact Flash and SD memory cards, making the PS3 a digital hub for photos; with a USB keyboard and mouse and the included web browser, it can serve as a basic PC.

Sony originally announced plans to ship the PS3 with Linux pre-installed, but currently user installation of "another operating system" is only a boot option. Use of another OS isn't currently supported by Sony, and would of course need to be specially designed to work on the PS3's specialized Cell processor architecture.

The PS3 is also the new HD core of Sony's modern take on the stereo system, offering 5.1 Dolby Digital Surround and true 1080p high definition video playback from prerecorded Blu-ray movies.

Popular PS3 games sell for $50 - $60.

PlayStation 3 (Includes 60GB Hard Drive, Blu-Ray Drive, WiFi)
PlayStation 3 (Includes 80GB Hard Drive, Blu-Ray Drive, WiFi and Motorstorm Pack)

on to the XBOX

Microsoft Xbox 360.
Introduced last winter, Microsoft's Xbox 360 is $300-450, uses a standard DVD optical drive, and only includes a hard drive and wireless game controller in its premium version. Microsoft recently updated the 360 to provide support for full HD, 1080p video output to match the PS3.

Rather than positioning the Xbox 360 as a standalone PC alternative, Microsoft pairs it with its plans for Windows Media Center, allowing the 360 to be used as a media extender to stream music and movies from a central Media Center PC.

Microsoft has plans to offer HD movie playback both with an optional HD-DVD player in an external box, and over the web through its online Xbox Live video store.

However, the Xbox 360's optional, external HD-DVD player is $180, pushing the 360 up to the same price as the PS3. Further, the $300 core Xbox 360 systems can't use Microsoft's online video store because they don't have the required hard drive to save downloaded movies.

Popular Xbox 360 games sell for $50 - $70.

Xbox 360 Core Console (no Hard Drive)
Xbox 360 Console (Includes 20GB Hard Drive)
Xbox 360 Elite System Console (Includes 120GB Hard Drive)

Xbox 360 Wireless Network Adapter for WiFi ($99)
Xbox 360 External HD-DVD Player ($180)

Now i must defend my position on "PS3 Is Better"
Lets first look at processing power
The XBox Has 3 Cores that run 3.2Ghz
The PS3 has 6 Cells that run 3.2Ghz
More processing power - also means higher graphics (without blur) and shorter load screens.

Lets now look at the GPU,
the Xbox runs a Xenos GPU (core speed of 500MHz with 50 pixel pipelines.)
The PS3 Runs on a Reality Synthesizer (core speed of 550MHz and 24 pixel pipelines.)

The xenos is slightly more powerful than the Synthesizer but games reley on the CPU more than the GPU.

Hardrive Capability's: (mid models)
The ps3 has a 60gb SATA 2.5 HDD, this is a laptop HDD which is fully upgradable.
The Xbox HDD is 20gb, only 16gb for use and is not upgradable.
This makes the PS3 47gb bigger and has alot faster reading due to serial ata tech.

now what about the RAM?
The 360 features a 512mb RAM - 700MHz
all of this RAM can be accessed by the CPU and GPU

The PS3 has two RAM sets, One for CPU and one for GPU, they both add up to 512mb, the GPU's alone RAM is clocked at 1.3GHz... THAT'S NEARLY TWICE AS FAST!

How bout the usb ports?
The PS3 has 4 USB ports found at the front of the console.
The "360" has 3, 2 in front and 1 in the back.

RELIABILITY:
The single fact that The Xbox 360 has a failure rate of 33% is a good reason not to buy it. My Xbox has never failed but many of my friend's have.

The PS3 has a failure rate of .2%
Statistics alone say that the PS3 is 150 times more reliable than the Xbox.

Games: (i will line up the famous ones)
PS3:
Grand Turismo HD
Resistance fall of man
Kill Zone 2

Xbox 360:
Forza 2
Halo 3
Gears Of War
They both have a great line up and by my personal opinion they are equal.

Disks:
The PS3 BlueRay Disk have a capacity of 50Gb, While the Xbox DVDs have a Capacity of 9Gb
Which means more potential for PS3 Games.

I rest My case
alexbates

Con

The Xbox 360 and PS3 are meant to be gaming systems. Therefore the most important aspect of these consoles is the games itself.

Xbox 360 has many more notable and sucessful titles than the PS3. Since it has more great titles it provides more hours of entertaining gameplay. You could finish playing the sucessful PS3 titles in a week or so. Since the XBox has more hours of gameplay it would be worth more and since it is cheaper than the PS3, it is a better value because you would play it more.

Also the Blue-ray disc feature on the PS3 requires a HDTV for it to be of any use. So you would have to pay and extra 1000 dollars or so to be able to even use such a feature.

I will admit the PS3 has slightly better graphics than the 360 , but I don't care how much better Sergeant Hale looks in comparison to Master Chief. The XBox is a much better GAMING system with much better games.
Debate Round No. 1
Labrat228

Pro

Thank you for accepting my challenge Alexbates.
I wont deny that games are the most important aspect, but you must realize that they are not the only aspect. And the bluray feature doesn't require an HDtv, for the first 2 months of me owning my PS3 it was on a simple Philips Magnavox from the early 90's.
"The Xbox has more hours of gameplay"

A. Name One Game With More Hours And I Will Name A Game To Beat It.
B. Not really possible because of the fact that The dvd's that the Xbox uses has 9gb Total memory when the Bluray Disk has 50gb of memory.

"I will admit the PS3 has slightly better graphics than the 360 , but I don't care how much better Sergeant Hale looks in comparison to Master Chief."

Sounds like my opponent is arguing for me now.

How about the controllers?
Does the 360 have motion sensors much like the Nintendo Wii? Nope!
Does the PS3 have motion sensors much like the Nintendo Wii? YES!!
alexbates

Con

You can play the Blue-ray DVDs on a nonHD TV, but it won't have much better graphics.

BY the gameplay comment it is not just one game that I was refering to. The Xbox obviously has more games so therefore it has more gameplay. But I will list some games for you.
Oblivion
Halo 3- unlimited gameplay if you play online
Assasin's Creed

Plus XboxLive Arcade offers tons more gameplay and tons of great games.

And I get way to into my games to use a motion sensetive controller. If I move the controller I dont want my car to go flying off screen.
Debate Round No. 2
Labrat228

Pro

"The Xbox obviously has more games so therefore it has more gameplay."
My opponent has failed to realize the PS3 has FULL backwards compatibility
Yes, you can play the original Teken for PS1.
My opponent named 3 games:

1. Oblivion
2. Halo 3- unlimited gameplay if you play online
3. Assasin's Creed

My response:
1. Oblivion is heading to the PS3, Here is what 1up.com has to say:

"The game will introduce a new faction to the Oblivion world, one that's available right at the beginning called Knights of the Nine and described by the developers as "the good Dark Brotherhood." The goal here is to become the Divine Crusader (think part warrior, part priest), and the quest features new locations, characters, armor and weapons."

So Oblivion will be BETTER on the PS3. You know how Obvlivion has long loading screens? PS3 has faster processing which means those long waits are gone!

2. I'm afraid i don't understand the meaning of "Unlimited Gameplay if you play online"... I guess i could counter that with:
Resistance fall of mankind - unlimited gameplay if you play online

3. And again, assassin's creed is for PS3 as well, no difference sadly enough, besides slightly better graphics for the PS3 due to faster processing and a better Graphics processor.

And by the way, you can turn off the motion sensor if you feel like it.

My opponent has failed to present a reason as to why the Xbox 360 is better than the PS3 therefor i win this debate. Vote Labrat228!

Lets review:
My opponents statments:

"You can play the Blue-ray DVDs on a nonHD TV, but it won't have much better graphics." - So the Graphics will still be better on a non-HDtv

"I will admit the PS3 has slightly better graphics than the 360 , but I don't care how much better Sergeant Hale looks in comparison to Master Chief." - So obviously my opponent knows it has better Graphics, and according to him, that's what matters.

Thanks for reading, vote pro!
alexbates

Con

alexbates forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Mangani 8 years ago
Mangani
There are people who still don't own HDTV's? Isn't this argument moot? I mean, as of February 2009 all TV will be digital and they will be necessary, barring your posession of a cheap converter. I have a PS3 with a 1080P 60 inch and oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! COD4 anyone? Mangani's the name! Jajajajajajaja!
Posted by PoeJoe 8 years ago
PoeJoe
"The PS3 has a failure rate of .2%
Statistics alone say that the PS3 is 150 times more reliable than the Xbox."

Lol.
Posted by Labrat228 8 years ago
Labrat228
Well when this is over ill debate the subject with you if you are still willing at that point in time. But yeah, Microsoft thought it was a good idea to have a barbones kit. About 3 of my friends have had the Infamous "Red Ring Of Death". So the .2% crash rate for the PS3 really means alot to me.
Posted by Jonngotti 8 years ago
Jonngotti
i would have accepted the challenge if i had the time last night i actually came on tonight to see if it still was open for debate.. but excuse me i did not realize the premium was the same as the regular xbox sorry about that. and Blu-ray disks are a new feature but just like he said you need an extra 100 dollars for that feature anyway. now i dont want to use the points he made. the xbox also has a dashboard substantially different than PS3, a much better dashboard than the PS3 (in my opinion, which is what this type of argument is based on, because this could go forever) and is much more worth it.
Posted by Labrat228 8 years ago
Labrat228
And by the way, i compare mid model to mid model
Mid for xbox is the Regular Console
Mid for PS3 is the 60 gig
Please don't argue if you wont except my challenge
Posted by Labrat228 8 years ago
Labrat228
i will correct you because you are wrong, Read my argument and you will see that bluray isn't the only difference.
And i was using current games in my line-up. now future or past, if you want to debate the future you can pay attention to the fact that the PS3 uses BR disks which mean they have Higher graphics, More potential, And of coarse they are easier to design b/c you have much more room for a story line. Games last longer simply because they have more room.
And it is impossible to name one thing that is better about Xbox live. Unless being charged is a good thing. Id love to see you accept this debate but you obviously wont.
Posted by Jonngotti 8 years ago
Jonngotti
i highly dis agree. although i do not have time to attend this particular argument i will say that Xbox360 has a much much much better online system than sony thus giving them the rights to charge for it. and your comparing apples to oranges....you need to compare the Xbox360 elite to the Ps3 premium. please correct me if im wrong they are both equal (aside from blu-ray or course). and Xbox has a MUCH MUCH better line up of Upcoming games and past games
Crackdown
Halo 3
Gears of War
Fable 2
Gears of War 2
Arcade games (thats a huge one that comes with online)
Xbox originals (yet another HUGE one thats updated weekly at the least)
and many more that i cant think of cuz i have to get going... sorry.
Posted by ndasa 8 years ago
ndasa
PS3 is waaaaaaaay cooler than the xbox360, my brother has both and the graphics on the 360, in y opinion, is way beter
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