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The Patriot Act, Does the president have too much power?

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Started: 1/19/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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mgn

Con

The president has way too much power when it comes down to the patriot act. Him (or her if this was in the future and brought up) can simply tap into a phone conversation. It can easily be misunderstood. For example, John and Paula are on the phone. They are talking about a party they are throwing this weekend. Paula says to John, as the president taps in, " Its gonna be a bomb.". John responds, "It sure will be. It'll blow the roof off this place." Fifteen minutes later, SWAT team comes running into Johns' and Paulas' homes. The information can easily be misunderstood or they may be getting the wrong information. This would also allow the president a great deal of power which could result in him/her abusing it. The Pro will respond that we have written in the Amendments that the FBI will be given power in the correct amount. I do understand that but is the power being given being used in the correct way?
fazz

Pro

Are you on the Pro side or Con side; please choose?
Debate Round No. 1
mgn

Con

I am on the con side. I will let you post your argument in Round 2 like I did in Round 1. Thank you for the debating.
fazz

Pro

NOTE: lets not use the T word here? OK?

Random searches do happen. Mistakes have occurred.

Your Jack and Jill argument above.. sounds a lot like this news item: Michelle Catalano. http://www.alternet.org...

However, in reality, this mistake occurred because of another regrettable mistake. The Boston Bombing. There had been information given about the Tsarnaev Brothers. The Patriot Act allows for this information to be sifted and shifted from dept. to dept. without wasting bureacratic time & money.

So that's one Pro for the Patriot Act. But the two actual culprits (ie. T-word-errorists) were not caught because THEM FOOLS (aka Congress) puts stop speed-bump-measures such as FISA, and court orders, to block the flow of information seamlessly. It is the Law, but I would put forward, that the Law is slowing down criminal justice!

Now let's get back to Jack and Jill..

Michelle Catalano's got a knock on the door from a Swat Team. But in reality it was the FBI/Swat who were scared. Right after the bombings they had a Public Relations scare. Because of this PR mess they had to do random raids to fill their quota, & to convince their higher up that they would not lose their jobs! So yes, mistake were made, but just as we citizens were scared, the "Authorities" did have legitimate fears. Hence, they were scared and made mistake just as we would!

Michelle Catalano just got a knock on the door. It was a honest mistake by the cops but all ended well. It was a misunderstanding, you see?

You may ask how can I be certain that we will not have our doors rammed down by the Feds like Jack and Paula on the phone? Well, because in August when they came knocking at Ms. Catalano's door they also came knocking on mine..LOL! :)
Debate Round No. 2
mgn

Con

mgn forfeited this round.
fazz

Pro

The jury will delibirate after a short recess..
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by fazz 3 years ago
fazz
@mgn

Sorry, but you are arguing that President has TOO much power, rite? - Faz
Posted by bubbatheclown 3 years ago
bubbatheclown
Based on what you're arguing, you should've made yourself pro.
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