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The Quran is Enough for Islam and Hadith Books should not be followed religiously

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/24/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debating that the Quran should be the sole authority of Islam and hadith books should be regarded as just historical narratives filled with inconsistencies and rumors. And should not be used for religious and spiritual matters. They should only be analyzed as history, rumors, hearsay and tales.


I thank Pro for instigating this debate, & I accept the challenge.



- Qur’an: the central religious text of Islam, which Muslims believe to be a revelation from God.

- Hadith: the collections of the reports of the teachings, deeds and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

- Islam: the religion founded by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).


- The debate is about wether or not the Hadith Collections should be deemed:

> Reliable corpus of sources.

> Basis of authority in Islamic Law, Theology & Spirituality.


- The burden of proof is shared.

- No forfeit, no disrespect, no bare assertions [*] & no shotgun argumentation [*].


- Sources must be authentic.

- They can be submitted within the same round or at the end of the debate.

- In case they are in a foreign language (Arabic), a translation should be provided in a google document, at least for the relevant parts.


Best of luck.

Debate Round No. 1


QuranistMuslim forfeited this round.


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Debate Round No. 2


QuranistMuslim forfeited this round.


- Waiting.
Debate Round No. 3


QuranistMuslim forfeited this round.


- Waiting.
Debate Round No. 4


QuranistMuslim forfeited this round.



- I’ll limit by case to citing verses from the Qur’an that decrees the authority of the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) aside from itself:

1. The Qur’an dictates that following the commands of the Prophet (pbuh) is the same the commands of Allah (in the Qur’an):

He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian.” (4:80) [1]

2. The Qur’an dictates that following the commands of the Prophet (pbuh) is a necessary requirement for a believer:

O you who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and render not vain your deeds.” (47:33) [2]

3. The Qur’an dictates that the Prophet (pbub) is not only a source of authority as a Lawmaker, but also as a Judge:

O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger.” (4:59)

- Therefore, the teachings of the Prophet (pbuh), i.e. those reported in Hadiths, are basis of authority in Islam beside the Quran for all believers, by the the unequivocal decree of Qur’an itself. It is thus absurd to suppose that the Qur’an is to be followed excluding the Hadith, for that would imply following the Qur’an &, at the same time, not following its decree, hence the absurdity!


- It has been established that the statement: ‘The Quran is Enough for Islam and Hadith Books should not be followed religiously’ is inherently absurd, which negates Pro’s resolution.

- Pro forfeited his entire debate without providing a single argument to support his affirmative claim, thus leaving me with nothing to refute as Con.

=> Vote Con.





Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Dazz 1 year ago
To Quranist: Quran as a sole authority for religious matters? Glaringly, debating you is much more easier than any explicit non-Muslim. I doubt if you perform "Salat, Hajj, Soum, Wadu" etc without following Hadees, or I must doubt if you perform any Salat, or wait, should I doubt if you're a Muslim, no because there is no need to doubt, you're clearly rejecting the basic tenets of Islam. Besides following Hadees is order of Quran itself. If you got deluded by propaganda, then I expect you to learn from this debate that how fallacious is your bias. But if you're part of spreading this propaganda by self, then I warn you, get ready for defeat. You'd be debating the authority of Quran by denying what it holds superior in authority.
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Vote Placed by MrJosh 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Obvious points for conduct due to PRO's forfeit. PRO never made an argument, so arguments to CON. CON was also the only one to offer sources, so that's a no-brainer as well. If I might make a suggestion to PRO: limit your resolutions to one point at a time, of you may find yourself overwhelmed.