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melorules
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imabench
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The Social Network should have won best picture

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/13/2011 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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melorules

Pro


This argument will have only 1 round so say what you need to say now please.

The King's Speech
was an undeserved victor. The film, while joyous and more than an accomplished piece of film-making, did not exemplify the best of what this little blue planet has to offer. It was 'the film of the moment' not 'a film for the ages'. In my mind that honour goes to The Social Network.

The King's Speech for all its many positives, doesn't have anything more to offer other than a by-the-numbers 'triumph over adversity' flick. The Best Picture (whether or not such a thing can even really exist is open to massive debate) should be a film that stands the test of time. Barely 12 hours after the ceremony it may seem an extraordinary claim to make but, for me, The Social Network has that honour nailed down flat.

When it was first announced that David 'Se7en, Fight Club, Zodiac' Fincher was making a movie about Facebook with a role for Justin Timberlake, cineastes checked their calendars to make sure it wasn't the first of April. A lack of faith that would prove, if not disturbing, at least unnecessary. Just as Fight Club wasn't a film about people punching each other, The Social Network was never going to be a film about our ability to poke.

Instead it was a film about ambition, about arrogance, about friendship and rivalry. It was about privilege and popularity, elitism and alienation. It threw a mirror onto an entire generation and asked what you thought, offering but not hiding behind it's own opinion.
Jesse Eisenberg gives a complex performance of a complex character that challenges each and every viewer to put up their own interpretation of who he is. That a real Mark Zuckerberg walks the earth with similar qualities to this creation should not lead you to believe for even one moment that Eisenberg is playing a real life person. His Zuckerberg is a 'role' written by Aaron Sorkin, made alive by Jesse's own ability to infuse him with mannerisms and emotions that support the film. Justin, Was able to pull off this role and do it amazingly too. It's been named Best Picture by the Critics' Choice Awards, the National Society of Film Critics, the New York Film Critics Awards, and the Los Angeles Film Critics Association. And as of Sunday, January 16, it is the Best Drama of the year, according to the Golden Globes. Coming as a close second too the king speech in almost every category(nominated for 8 awards, won 3. With the people who choose the everything, they have a high tendency to pick movies more"classical" taking place years ago. Obviously, they would favor the kings speech over the social network, witch is so new and for a younger viewer. The social network should have at least won best picture if we had voters who have picked a wide range of movies, like the Golden Globes. Oh, I forgot. They did.


imabench

Con

The Pro claims that "The King's speech" was a film for the moment and that "The Social network" was a film for the ages, but doesnt that seem the opposite of the truth? The Social Network is a movie about a website that a majority of us are older then, The King's speech is a film that dates back to before WWII in a time before even our fathers werent born

How can The Social Network be a film for the ages and not a film for the moment if
1) Most of us are older than it
2) Will facebook be here for ages? Myspace might have but we all know what happened to it.

The Social Network was a documentary of how the social network 500 million people use came into existence, because lets face it nobody knew about its true origins until the movie came out. The film is a documentary of facebook, much like how "The King's Speech" was a documentary of British royalty overcoming a fear that millions of people face. Overcoming a fear of public speaking and overcoming a speech impediment that millions suffer from.

You seem to stake most of your argument on the idea that since it won the most Golden Globes, It should have Won best picture, but the criteria for selecting a movie are far different than the performance of a movie in another category.

The Kings speech i felt was a fantastic movie, I saw both movies and I enjoyed both of them but King's Speech i felt was better for these reasons.

1) The King's speech is a clearer example of overcoming adversity. In the social Network Zuckerberg has to overcome a lawsuit from 2 twins who claim to have started facebook. In the Kings Speech a man of royal descendency has to overcome a lifelong speech impediment and help lead a nation into the turmoil of WWII by relying on a man of unconventional wisdom and teaching tactics to help him overcome his impediment.

2) In The Social Network the only friendship you see is when Zuckerberg makes friends and then completely screws them over for no obvious reasons. In the film he actually called the cops on his friend (played by timberlake) which turned into a drug raid, and Zuckerberg called it in. In the King's speech the friendship between a British King and an Australian speech therapist form against all odds and stays strong as the common man has to help the king overcome obstacles. It is literally like the mouse having to pul the thorn out of the lions paw, the lion being the king of the jungle and the mouse being the lowly mammal that no one fears and has no position of power.

3) Social network may have thrown a mirror onto a generation, but The Kings speech did the same and more. Anyone who grew up in Britain prior to WWII, anyone with a stuttering problem, anyone who has ever had to go to the last person on the list for help, anyone who has ever formed an unlikely alliance, they can all relate to this film. Social network applies to this generation only but the King's speech has spanned through time itself

4) What about the ending?
Social Network = Case isnt settled, fate of facebook isnt known
Kings Speech = A lifelong frindship is formed, the speech therapist becomes an honorary duke, the King is looked back in history as one of the greatest kings in British history

Social Network did not have a definite ending, Kings Speech did.

The King's Speech deserves to have won best picture for the reasons stated below
1) A clearer example of overcoming adversity
2) A much more heart warming story about an unlikely friendship that stands the test of time
3) King's Speech appeals to a more diverse audience than a movie about social networking
4) King's speech actually had an ending

Vote Con :D
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by melorules 5 years ago
melorules
sorry this was only one round. got caught up in schoolwork and couldnt make time for more. good debate. GO STANFORD
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Reasons for voting decision: "Cons arguemnts were really illogical" Willoweed, you could have a hand in trying to explain how Con's arguments were "illogical" and how Con needed to be deprived of a point for conduct...
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Reasons for voting decision: Cons arguemnts were really illogical
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Reasons for voting decision: I'm nullyfing Mr.VicePresident's incoherent vote. Sorry guy.
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Reasons for voting decision: I was even on this because no one really used any definitive proof. Mostly just their own opinion. Hard to win a debate in one round too. I liked Pro's look and Con's argument! Good job in one round!
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Reasons for voting decision: The facts r all there