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jowens367
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TheHunter
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The Texans will reach the superbowl

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TheHunter
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/11/2012 Category: Sports
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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jowens367

Pro

The Texans will reach the superbowl because of a lack of good opponents
TheHunter

Con

Thank you for proposing the debate, this just so happens to be my favorite sport!

I say, of course, you're wrong.

This debate appears to be "The Texans will reach the Super Bowl," with the lack of formidable opponents as the warrant for such claim.

I'd like for you to confirm this for me in the beginning of your case in the next round, and I anxiously await your responses!
Debate Round No. 1
jowens367

Pro

Thanking to responding to my debate.
If you look in to the AFC deeply now, there are only two other elite teams besides the Texans. Patriotsand Ravens.
You know that the Texans will make it to the playoffs, with the weak lack of talent in the AFC. I wont argue about them going to the playoffs because you can't find six better teams. You will probably disagree that the Texans will be the number seed in the playoffs. From looking in to the season right now, i believe that in the diviional round, they will face the Patriots. In the last 11 postseason games of Brady's career, he is 6-5. Between the end of Superbowl 42 and before the four years in took Brady to get back in a winning postseason record of Superbowl 46. He was 0-2.
The AFC Championship will feature the Ravens @ Texans, a rematch of last years divional round. The Texans lost to the team 20 - 13 with a rookie backup quarterback and a wide reciever coming of an injury. Matt Schuab and the Texans will have homefield advantage to beat the Ravens
TheHunter

Con

I'd like to start my debate by making aware to the public that it is impossible to use full certainty of who will reach the super bowl in week 6 (of 17) in the regular season. My opponent has laid an impossible burden of proof upon himself, and for that reason alone cannot win this debate. It doesn't say probable or have the best chance, it clearly states will.

Moving into his arguments just for fun...


My opponent has stated that the Texans are more likely to make it to the super bowl because he feels that they don't have adequate competition. He then uses statistics and records (with no evidence) to zoom in, completely ignoring history in it's entirety. He states that the Patriots are 6-5, I don't know if it's true and he hasn't provided evidence that it is(The Patriots are 23-16 overall[4]). What is true, however, is that the Patriots have been to the super bowl 5 times in the last 10 years. [1] That's an average of once every other year. What is also true, is that the Texans have an all-time playoff record of 1-1.[2] Last year was there first time ever making it to the playoffs, and when they made it they were taken down by the Ravens (as he stated).

The Patriots do better than the Texans in post play EVERY year. As do the Ravens, they have a playoff record of 10-7.[3] For these reasons alone, it is unreasonable to conclude that the Texans will reach the super bowl. But why stop there? Last year, the Texans were beaten by the Ravens in the playoffs, and then the Ravens were beaten by the Patriots to reach the super bowl. This year, the Ravens and the Patriots are BOTH better on offense. If they couldn't stop them last year, how can they stop them this year when it clearly shows that they are better than the team the Texans are this year on paper and better than they were, themselves, last year? There is no logic in his argument, he is making leaps of faith because he has favored this team, personally. Another team, who has been to 2 of the last 4 super bowls, is the Steelers.[1] Though they are off to a rocky start, it's improbable that they won't make it to the playoffs due to their playoff consistency.

There you have it, 3 teams that have proven that they can reach the SuperBowl (or even the conference championship for that matter..) before the Texans. And then they (Texans) aren't even 4th.



[1]http://www.pro-football-reference.com...
[2]http://www.pro-football-reference.com...
[3]http://www.pro-football-reference.com...
[4]http://www.pro-football-reference.com...
Debate Round No. 2
jowens367

Pro

jowens367 forfeited this round.
TheHunter

Con

I extend my arguments another round.
Debate Round No. 3
jowens367

Pro

jowens367 forfeited this round.
TheHunter

Con

The Texans will not reach the Super Bowl.
Debate Round No. 4
jowens367

Pro

jowens367 forfeited this round.
TheHunter

Con

Sad. This one could have gotten interesting.

My Arguments stand


My opponent has stated that the Texans are more likely to make it to the super bowl because he feels that they don't have adequate competition. He then uses statistics and records (with no evidence) to zoom in, completely ignoring history in it's entirety. He states that the Patriots are 6-5, I don't know if it's true and he hasn't provided evidence that it is(The Patriots are 23-16 overall[4]). What is true, however, is that the Patriots have been to the super bowl 5 times in the last 10 years. [1] That's an average of once every other year. What is also true, is that the Texans have an all-time playoff record of 1-1.[2] Last year was there first time ever making it to the playoffs, and when they made it they were taken down by the Ravens (as he stated).

The Patriots do better than the Texans in post play EVERY year. As do the Ravens, they have a playoff record of 10-7.[3] For these reasons alone, it is unreasonable to conclude that the Texans will reach the super bowl. But why stop there? Last year, the Texans were beaten by the Ravens in the playoffs, and then the Ravens were beaten by the Patriots to reach the super bowl. This year, the Ravens and the Patriots are BOTH better on offense. If they couldn't stop them last year, how can they stop them this year when it clearly shows that they are better than the team the Texans are this year on paper and better than they were, themselves, last year? There is no logic in his argument, he is making leaps of faith because he has favored this team, personally. Another team, who has been to 2 of the last 4 super bowls, is the Steelers.[1] Though they are off to a rocky start, it's improbable that they won't make it to the playoffs due to their playoff consistency.

There you have it, 3 teams that have proven that they can reach the SuperBowl (or even the conference championship for that matter..) before the Texans. And then they (Texans) aren't even 4th.


[1]http://www.pro-football-reference.com......
[2]http://www.pro-football-reference.com......
[3]http://www.pro-football-reference.com......
[4]http://www.pro-football-reference.com......

Debate Round No. 5
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Reasons for voting decision: All-and-around con win.