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The Town Deer Should Be Culled

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Started: 5/23/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Liam_MacDonald

Con

The town deer are going to be culled because us as the human race started to feed them food
flaskblob

Pro

LET THE DEER LIVE
Debate Round No. 1
Liam_MacDonald

Con

But the deer in our community have become aggressive they have charged multiple people and they have just gotten out of hand
flaskblob

Pro

I contend that the people have gotten out of hand and have become aggressive towards the deer. The people should be culled not the deer.
Debate Round No. 2
Liam_MacDonald

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Liam_MacDonald forfeited this round.
flaskblob

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by katrilenyah 4 years ago
katrilenyah
Okay i'm sorry this is about deer not wolves.
Posted by 1Percenter 4 years ago
1Percenter
No, its not emotion, its economics. Many rural societies depend on ranching and big game herds and cannot afford these losses. Some communities face much higher proportions of losses to wolves than others, depending of course on location.

Vulture and dog populations are many times greater than wolf populations. Sure, wolves may not the leading cause of livestock death, but individual wolves in Idaho are about 170 times more likely to kill cattle than are individual coyotes or black bears. An individual wolf was found to be about 21 times more likely to kill cattle than a freaking mountain lion.

So allowing wolf packs to grow and roam freely near agrarian communities would cause livestock losses to increase much more significantly than other predators.
Posted by flaskblob 4 years ago
flaskblob
How is there seriously this many comments on this debate.
Posted by Citrakayah 4 years ago
Citrakayah
That being said, sheep kills by dogs were more by almost a factor of seven (http://www.westernwolves.org...). You know how many predator kills, as a percentage, are due to wolves? 3.8%. Vultures kill two thirds as many (http://usda01.library.cornell.edu...). Dogs kill three times as many (http://usda01.library.cornell.edu...). But people like dogs. You get more cattle dead from digestive problems than wolves. Freaking /cattle-rustling/ accounts for more losses than wolves

Wolves are an incredibly minor problem relating to cattle. But they get outsized vitriol. Why? Because of the emotions people have against them. They're predators, and we don't share well with predators.
Posted by 1Percenter 4 years ago
1Percenter
Well, rarely are the livestock losses that high in a single attack, but over a years time it could easily be in he hundreds.

In fact, in Montana there was a wolf attack that killed 120 sheep a few years ago. So yes, wolf kills can be that many.
http://missoulian.com...
Posted by Citrakayah 4 years ago
Citrakayah
Hundreds? No. Wolf kills aren't nearly that many. Most of what are reported as wolf kills are in fact kills by wild dogs, or wolves were merely eating carrion.

I'll debate you on that subject.
Posted by 1Percenter 4 years ago
1Percenter
Wolves can be destructive pests, too. Until recently, wolves have been protected from hunting for years in Idaho. There have been dozens of cases of packs of wolves invading pastures and killing hundreds of farmers' sheep and other livestock. Wolf populations need to be suppressed around farm lands to discourage them from living off hapless livestock rather than deer.
Posted by Citrakayah 4 years ago
Citrakayah
I know that. But on a lot of those areas wolves were exterminated.
Posted by katrilenyah 4 years ago
katrilenyah
Okay just so some people know, wolves are not everywhere in the united states, yes wolves should not be suppressed but some people don't live in an area with wolves, i dont.
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