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The U.S. should become a communist nation.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/10/2008 Category: Religion
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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dodo1691

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Look at Germany and how well they favored until the rest of the world except fot the Axis powers in world war two. They could have taken over the whole world under a communist or facist government.Therefore we need to become communist nation.
slammin

Con

Thank you for starting this debate and good luck. :)

"Look at Germany and how well they favored until the rest of the world except fot the Axis powers in world war two."

Look at the US today! I mean compare the United States to China.

China:
Life Expectancy: 72.88 years
GDP: $7.043 trillion
GDP Per Capita: $5,300
Below Poverty Line: 8%
note: 21.5 million rural population live below the official "absolute poverty" line (approximately $90 per year); and an additional 35.5 million rural population above that but below the official "low income" line (approximately $125 per year) (2006 est.)

United States:
Life Expectancy: 78 years
GDP: $13.86 trillion
GDP Per Capita: $46,000
Below Poverty Line: 12%
Source: cia.gov

You are able to see that the United States brings in almost double what China does. The average person earns about $40,000 more than a person in China and our life expectancy if higher. We have a stronger economy. Although we have more people below the poverty line, we still have much less people than China and China's definition of poverty line and ours in different. So, therefore you cannot argue that China (the leading communist country of today) is "better" than the United States.

"They could have taken over the whole world under a communist or facist government. Therefore we need to become communist nation."

Who says that we need to "take over the world?" I think that we are doing great as we are and one of the leading countries in the world.

Since I have replied to your opening comments, I will move onto points of my own. Communism gives you basically no freedom at all. Therefore, our Constitution is completely defeated. A Communist government tells you where to live, what to do for a living, who to marry, etc. You have no freedom and the government controls almost everything!

Also, Communist countries tend to harm the environment. There is a lack of economic development due to the fact that the government controls the economy and ensure that the majority of the people remain poor. These people living close or below the poverty line are more concerned with feeding their families than the environment. The cleanliness of a country's air, land, and water are directly related with the per capita of the country.

Did you know that China today and the Soviet Union in the past had/have the most polluted spots in the world? http://www.planetizen.com... This tells you that present day Russia and China are on the list of the Top Ten Most Polluted Spots on Earth. The other countries are poor. This proves my conclusion that I have stated in the previous paragraph.

Also, Communist countries are known to exploit minerals and other natural resources for wealth.

The United States should NOT become a Communist nation because we are doing great as we are and communism can lead to the many negative things I have listed above.

Thank-you and I await your response.
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Posted by Samacado 9 years ago
Samacado
Communism does not work, there is a giant clock counting down the hours untill China colapses. Socialism might work, even communism, but only in small groups
Posted by Samacado 9 years ago
Samacado
Yea. Germany was national socialist.
Posted by SweetBags 9 years ago
SweetBags
the pros basis was faulty (germany was fasist/dictatorship, not communist, and it also was doing horribly after ww1 until the 1920s when teh country began recovering from ww1, then its econ went sour during the depression). also it may or may not of taken over teh world, if it did the world would (as i said previously) become a big dictatorship. and the posibility of it winning ww2 and installing communism is hardly a reason for us to become one
con did a great job rebuting and providing new points, congrats.
Posted by ellyphant 9 years ago
ellyphant
More evidence=better, no evidence=worse. This one's pretty obvious. Cheers, slammin!
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Posted by Harboggles 9 years ago
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I would like to point out that China OWNS the united states.
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