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The U.S. should tax consumption, not income

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Started: 4/19/2010 Category: Politics
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Rocker2396

Con

Hello,
I will give some background information about this debate and why I chose this topic. First I'm am a middle school debate student who is to lazy to write the other side of my case and I need to test my just written case. I know you don't need to tell me I'm not doing the work for you. I just need to test one case and while were debating I would like to construct another case.

It would be nice if my opponent would post there opening argument in this format

1.argument # 1
2.argument # 2
3.argument # 3

1. evidence supporting argument 1
2. evidence supporting argument 2
3. evidence supporting argument 3
Atheistassociate

Pro

Thank you for posting this debate, may the best arguments win.
Before I begin here are some definitions:
Tax :a sum of money demanded by a government for its support or for specific facilities or services, levied upon incomes, property, sales, etc.
Consumption: the using up of goods and services having an exchangeable value.
Income: the monetary payment received for goods or services, or from other sources, as rents or investments.

Argument 1: The movement away from taxing income will increase the incentive to work and subsequently increase GDP

Argument 2: The movement towards taxing of consumption will create and incentive to move away from consumption and towards savings, the increase in saving will act as a cushion for people when times become rough. Since savings will usually be in a bank, the saving translates to loans and an increase in investments and capital

Argument 3: This would be a more passive way of collection taxes which would allow the government to spend less on the IRS since they would only need to collect the taxes from business and not every individual.

Evidence for Argument 1: When a tax is created an incentive to avoid the taxed activity is also created. If tax on income was a 100% than no one would work. Whenever marginal tax is cut than the amount of work done is increased. Between 1963 and 1965 their were marginal tax cuts across all tax bracket which increased revenue from the top 5% because as they worked more they were able to keep more of their earnings. in 1981 and 1986 the top 5% of the tax bracket got a major marginal cut from 70% to 33%. This caused the US economy from being sluggish in the 70's to energetic.

Evidence for Argument 2: When the income tax is shifted to consumption it creates incentives to consume less. When people spend less they'll save more and invest more since they'll be taxed less in these areas. Most people will save in a bank in order to counter inflation. These saving would also double as a safety cushion if a persons job is lost making hard times more bearable. Since the supply of savings will increase the interest rates in the loadable funds market will fall making it easier for people to barrow for investments in machinery, Factories, Offices and for some people College as an investment in Human Capital.

Evidence for Argument 3: When a tax is placed on income the IRS has to monitor the large amount of tax paying citizen which in 2004 amounted to 131,113,969 based on the tax returns which is much larger than the amount of companies selling to the US market even if you include Mom and Pop shops as well as online businesses which would make the taxed entities easier to monitor and collect from.

I couldn't find statistics on the amount of businesses who sold to the US market but it seems logical to think that their are less businesses selling to people in the US than people supplying income taxes to the US Government.

Thanks for posting this debate, I look forward to the response.

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Debate Round No. 1
Rocker2396

Con

Rocker2396 forfeited this round.
Atheistassociate

Pro

Since the second round has been forfeited, I extend my argument.
Debate Round No. 2
Rocker2396

Con

Rocker2396 forfeited this round.
Atheistassociate

Pro

Since the third round has been forfeited, I extend my argument.

(and wonder where CON is)
Debate Round No. 3
Rocker2396

Con

Rocker2396 forfeited this round.
Atheistassociate

Pro

since no argument has been given for the other side, vote PRO.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by CrysisPillar 7 years ago
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I have to agree with Nags for his comment.
However, being someone in the same debate leauge (which I will NOT name), debate.org tends to be where we get some good points for our debates. Although we never usually have the arguements pre-formated and in some ways plaigarize the works of others.
Posted by Xer 7 years ago
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Rocker2396: "Can someone do my homework for me?"
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