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'The URANTIA Papers' is *Truly* the 5th epochal divine revelation it claims to be. Wanna debate it?.

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Started: 2/7/2015 Category: Religion
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LuisMarco

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The URANTIA Great Revelation ('The URANTIA Papers or Book') is the name of our world.

Its very first paragraph is this one:

'Foreword
[(Page.paragraph) Paper:section.paragraph]
(1.1) 0:0.1 IN THE MINDS of the mortals of Urantia " that being the name of your world " there exists great confusion respecting the meaning of such terms as God, divinity, and deity. Human beings are still more confused and uncertain about the relationships of the divine personalities designated by these numerous appellations. Because of this conceptual poverty associated with so much ideational confusion, I have been directed to formulate this introductory statement in explanation of the meanings which should be attached to certain word symbols as they may be hereinafter used in those papers which the Orvonton corps of truth revealers have been authorized to translate into the English language of Urantia.'

Accurate scientific confirmations of URANTIA's advanced Science:
'UBtheNEWS: Various Scientific Corroborations, URANTIA Book':
http://youtu.be... (7:49) (http://ubthenews.com...)

Google it & research it if you will it & it's free & complete online, but skip the parts of its foreword that you don't understand... :)))

.LM., 30, Mexico City
KMVernon

Con

I would like to thank pro for instigating this interesting topic.
Since pro has not provided an argument, I shall assume the first round has been designated for introduction.
I look forward to pro's second round assertions and subsequent substantiations of those assertions.
I would like to say the BoP is on the Pro possition to confirm or at least more reasonably defend the motion.
Good luck pro.
Debate Round No. 1
LuisMarco

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KMVernon

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Debate Round No. 2
LuisMarco

Pro

OK thanks 'con'.
Let's start:
The URANTIA Revelation's celestial authors affirm the science & history contained within it is not of a revelatory nature (emphasis in the original):

'101:4.2 Mankind should understand that we who participate in the revelation of truth are very rigorously limited by the instructions of our superiors. We are not at liberty to anticipate the scientific discoveries of a thousand years. Revelators must act in accordance with the instructions which form a part of the revelation mandate. We see no way of overcoming this difficulty, either now or at any future time. We full well know that, while the historic facts and religious truths of this series of revelatory presentations will stand on the records of the ages to come, within a few short years many of our statements regarding the physical sciences will stand in need of revision in consequence of additional scientific developments and new discoveries. These new developments we even now foresee, but we are forbidden to include such humanly undiscovered facts in the revelatory records. Let it be made clear that revelations are not necessarily inspired. The cosmology of these revelations is not inspired. It is limited by our permission for the co-ordination and sorting of present-day knowledge. While divine or spiritual insight is a gift, human wisdom must evolve.'

But with exceptions, it does have advanced & accurate science & history for its epoch (published 1955 but almost completed 1934, 1935), that was a little later confirmed by our science & history as advanced & accurate (& even today we still find confirmations, in our science & history, of URANTIA's):

'101:4.5
Truth may be but relatively inspired, even though revelation is invariably a spiritual phenomenon. While statements with reference to cosmology are never inspired, such revelations are of immense value in that they at least transiently clarify knowledge by:

1. The reduction of confusion by the authoritative elimination of error.
2. The co-ordination of known or about-to-be-known facts and observations.
3. The restoration of important bits of lost knowledge concerning epochal transactions in the distant past.
4. The supplying of information which will fill in vital missing gaps in otherwise earned knowledge.
5. Presenting cosmic data in such a manner as to illuminate the spiritual teachings contained in the accompanying revelation.'

So then, here below is just one example--various--of URANTIA's advanced science & history, that are found in this website just below & elsewhere, that makes us conclude that, as it was science (&/or history) we didn't know at the time of URANTIA's apparition, it is indeed what its celestial authors claim it to be.
http://ubthenews.com...
'UBtheNEWS: Various Scientific Corroborations, Urantia Book': https://youtube.com...
Your turn people, this is this debate!!!. ;)
.LM., 31, Mexico City
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