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ChosenWolff
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paulbrevik
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The US should buy Greenland

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ChosenWolff
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Started: 6/10/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ChosenWolff

Pro

Greenlandic independence is sought by most of Greenland's population. For the purpose of the debate, we will assume that Greenland can be bought. Which is not totally unrealistic, given the people wanted us to in 1946.

My opponent will begin in R1.

paulbrevik

Con

I accept this debate. I will argue that the US should NOT buy Greenland.

First of all, the United States has no claim to Greenland. We have no industry there, and there are very few if any americans living in Greenland.

We have no right to try to take land from other people.

It is a waste of tax dollars to buy a country with such little prospect of getting our money back.
Debate Round No. 1
ChosenWolff

Pro

I. Economic Potential of Greenland

Greenland is predicted by researchers and scientists, to be one of the most resource rich places on earth. Unfortunately, we can't mine gold on another countries territories. They are also loaded in fish and mollusks. You might be asking, if Greenland has so much economic potential, then why is the nation have such a low complexity score?



This is due to a massive trade deficit that Greenland has undertaken with its colonial relation to Danemark. Greenland is exporting only 500 million, most of which goes to feed the Danish fish. In return, Greenlands infrastructure is trying to sustain 400 million more. The Danish Economy is unwilling to pay off Greenlands debt, and even though 50% of their revenue is produced by Danemark, they can not get out of the deficit hole, of 36 million.

Lets move over to the black figure on that graph. That represents Greenlands Aluminum exports. Aluminum is cheap material, but is much more valuable than fish. The reason its so large, is due to the cheap amount of money it takes to extract from the earth. Greenland, unfortunately, can't pay off its debt, and develop the industry. Even though 36 million is cheap, you can't spend what you don't have.

If the US were to buy Greenland, and pay off its debt, the aluminum deposits would more than pay off all our expenses.



As you can see, the Greenland economy has more than just aluminum. They have everything from gold to coal. These things are much harder to mine, and Greenland has no money to pay for boreholes. The Inatsisartut, is willing to allow multi national companies from all over the world in. It is designated as one of the most desirable places for mineral companies. The US could recieve unprecedented access. 55% of the mining industry is controlled by multi nationals already.

Lets move on to fishing. Which is more than profitable. Let me show you a surreal map of the world....



You see the lakes around the Falkland Islands? Those are sources of light pollution. They are created by fishing boats. Fish tend to concentrate around areas above polar ice caps. The same lucrative industries are not present in Greenland. This is due to a lack of licensing. Let me explain.

Greenland has one of the largest fish depots in the world. Enough fish, that with enough people, could sustain a quarter of the world. Why aren't they taking advantage of it?



Their population growth is dirt low. Can you blame them? They live on a ice chunk not that has nearly no suitable farmland. How can the US change this?



We have a huge seafood business, but also a trade deficit, like Greenland. We are paying a exteme amount more than we can consume on imports. The US has 1000's of eager investors who would love to get their hands on Greenlands fishing industry. We have the population, money, and resources to take Greenland where it can't go. This is more than a win-win solution. Now, why the US and not Danemark?

The Danes are only paying 40% of Greenlands GDP, which gets smaller and smaller each year. Given Greenlands economic potential, I project the US could afford to give a aid bloc 300% larger than Danemark can. Come on, there's no loss here.

http://ec.europa.eu...

http://www.alcoa.com...

http://atlas.media.mit.edu...

http://www.resourceinvestor.com...
paulbrevik

Con

paulbrevik forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
ChosenWolff

Pro

Vote Pro, 7 point FF
paulbrevik

Con

paulbrevik forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
8 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 8 records.
Posted by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
I agree.
Posted by ChosenWolff 2 years ago
ChosenWolff
Its alright. I don't debate to hear others arguments. I just like writing my own.
Posted by paulbrevik 2 years ago
paulbrevik
Sorry I didn't have enough free time to really focus on this debate. I wish someone else had accepted the challenge.
Posted by Adam2 2 years ago
Adam2
This story will never have a fair end will it?
Posted by Adam2 2 years ago
Adam2
Two oppressing bullies wanting Greenland -- this never gets old...
Posted by ChosenWolff 2 years ago
ChosenWolff
At least tons of raw materials and resources.
Posted by ChosenWolff 2 years ago
ChosenWolff
Yes
Posted by inaudita 2 years ago
inaudita
Does Greenland have any oil? It'd be a lot more likely if it did.
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Vote Placed by 9spaceking 2 years ago
9spaceking
ChosenWolffpaulbrevik
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Vote Placed by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
ChosenWolffpaulbrevik
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Vote Placed by thett3 2 years ago
thett3
ChosenWolffpaulbrevik
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Reasons for voting decision: Disappointing as this is a very interesting topic.