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yoon172
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kenito001
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The United Nation a failure?

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Started: 12/30/2007 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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yoon172

Pro

There are a lot of aims of the UN. The stated aims of the United Nations are to maintain international peace and security, to safeguard human rights, to provide a mechanism for international law, and to promote social and economic progress, improve living standards, and fight diseases.It provides the opportunity for countries to balance global interdependence and national interests when addressing international problems. The organization also discusses and deliberates global conflicts, wars, disarmament and peace efforts.

But, the UN had several failures. The UN had failed to keep peace for some counties and more people are suffering such as a report has said that the global case-load of refugees and displaced persons is growing at alarming speed. The number of refugees from armed conflicts worldwide increased from 2.4 million in 1974 to more than 27.4 million today, the report notes, with another 30 million people displaced within their own countries. Children and women make up an estimated 80 per cent of displaced populations. Also since the 1950s, more wars have started than have stopped. By the end of 1995, wars had been running in Afghanistan for 17 years, Angola, 30; Liberia, 6; Somalia, 7; Sri Lanka, 11; Sudan, 12.

There is no doubt that we are in a time of chaos in the world. Wars and genocide are as widespread as ever.

Misery and suffering are on every continent of the globe we call earth. The world is currently focused on the 'War In Iraq' and the problem of nuclear proliferation in Iran and North Korea but the sad fact is threats to world peace are as widespread as ever in spite of the efforts of the UN.

Where do we turn? Our respective governments? Grassroots support? Does genocide on the African continent for example even matter?

It is not unreasonable to look to the United Nations for understanding and problem resolution. Reasonably, we expect it to be an unbiased and peace loving organization. Yet at closer examination one begins to realize the fact that the United Nations has been a total failure in terms of world peace. Rarely has the UN brought enough countries together to form an alliance to intervene meaningfully in the affairs of a brutal country.
kenito001

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Although there are a lot of aims of the UN, they were established with only a few main purposes:
1) Prevent World War III
2) Safeguard peace and international security
3) Act as an impartial governing body over the entire world

While it should not be a voting issue in this debate, I will prove that the United States of America has failed, and that the UN has in fact succeeded.

Not only has the UN thusfar accomplished these three tenants, but they have also proven their effectiveness in its recent history. The UN is relied upon for sovereign nations to seek support for initiatives to prevent war and instill peace. Receiving harsh criticism because of its approach against the War on Terror, the UN has still prevented chaos within its own powers; essentially, the faults of the Iraq and Afghanistan military operations are blamed fully upon the United States and not the UN. It was decided by the General Assembly and Security Council not to assist the US, and a neutral stance on an issue does not mark as failure. No major terrorist attacks or threats have come since September 11 2001 and equal prospective reward must be granted to both the laws upheld by the UN and the military operations of the US.

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my opponent states "The UN had failed to keep peace for some counties and more people are suffering such as a report has said that the global case-load of refugees and displaced persons is growing at alarming speed. The number of refugees from armed conflicts worldwide increased from 2.4 million in 1974 to more than 27.4 million today, the report notes, with another 30 million people displaced within their own countries. Children and women make up an estimated 80 per cent of displaced populations. Also since the 1950s, more wars have started than have stopped. By the end of 1995, wars had been running in Afghanistan for 17 years, Angola, 30; Liberia, 6; Somalia, 7; Sri Lanka, 11; Sudan, 12.",
and this would have been true had it been written after the 1999 Rwanda Genocide. However, seeing as the year is 2007, the UN has readjusted its foreign policy and relied more upon regional organizations, such as ASEAN, the AU, and the EU, to enforce its policies while providing military and financial support. Democracy was successfully upheld in the African nations of Togo and Mauritania in 2005, and the genocide of Darfur has been a successful operation within the context of its limitations. The AU has failed to restore order to Darfur only because the Sudanese government's colaboration between itself and the Janjaweed outweighs the allocated resources used. THe UN has called upon the US to grant additional support, which it has failed to do so. In this case, the United States has failed the UN. The increase in number of refugees is due to the concept of globalization, as terrorist groups and individuals are able to shape the landscape of a country's culture more than ever before. The statistics from 1995 are outdated.

"There is no doubt that we are in a time of chaos in the world. Wars and genocide are as widespread as ever."
This assertion cannot be proven, however, I will concede that there still exists in the 21st Century the concept of genocide and war. Citing "The Just Peace", author R.J. Rummel defines peace as a social contract in which individual expectations are harmonized with a corresponding balance of powers. A just peace allows people the freedom to form their own communities or to leave undesired ones. In Rummel's proposed new global order, peace is not the highest value or goals. Rather, freedom is the highest value. Comparing the concept of granting freedom by the United Nations and by America recently, while the UN's proportionately funded operations have successfully restored order and peace, the initial estimates of "days", "weeks", and even "at most 6 weeks" pertaining to the Invasion of Iraq, as cited by Secretary of State Collin Powell, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in 2003, the United Nations has succeeded while the US has failed.

"The world is currently focused on the 'War In Iraq' and the problem of nuclear proliferation in Iran and North Korea but the sad fact is threats to world peace are as widespread as ever in spite of the efforts of the UN."
The UN was never intended, and should not be held to the standards of eliminating the existence of all potential international threats, merely to prevent them from proliferating. While the USSR was able to rival the powers of the Western world, the end result saved millions of human lives, prevented nuclear war, and defeated communism. The same occurs with Iran, North Korea, and Iraq. May I repeat that the quagmire that is Iraq is not the fault of the UN. However, other than assumed nuclear testings and the launching of the Tae-Pae-Dong 2 missile, the fights against Iran and North Korea are in the middle stages, and are not nearly over. The UN at this point has neither succeeded nor failed, neither has yet to occur. It can be said that the UN weapons inspections failed in Iraq. Initially they did. But, as they progressed into the 21st century, the UN inspectors were "wising up" to Saddam's avasion tactics and the last rounds of inspections were interrupted by the U.S. invasion. No weapons of mass destruction or nuclear technologies were found in Iraq and the intelligence that asserted so was "bad" intelligence. Whether Saddam was playing political chess with his neighboring enemies or trying to scare off the U.S., the UN successfully prevented Iraq from obtaining such weapons. The most recent documented mass acquisition of weapons came on the part of the United States, fueling the Hussein regime in the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980s.

"Where do we turn? Our respective governments? Grassroots support? Does genocide on the African continent for example even matter?"
We turn to the UN. If we actually support them, they succeed. The Bush Administration has refused to take no for an answer, and has acted hastily.

"It is not unreasonable to look to the United Nations for understanding and problem resolution."
Agreed. Tenent 3 of the purpose of the UN.

"Reasonably, we expect it to be an unbiased and peace loving organization."
As it has done for the world over its history.

"Yet at closer examination one begins to realize the fact that the United Nations has been a total failure in terms of world peace. Rarely has the UN brought enough countries together to form an alliance to intervene meaningfully in the affairs of a brutal country."
It is not the role of the UN to bring its countries together, but for its members to bring its fellow members together. Without stubborn world leaders who prevent its ability to act and fulfill its duties, the UN has succeeded, and will continue to succeed.
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Posted by mikelwallace 9 years ago
mikelwallace
The U.N. is bad news for the Red, White, and Blue.
Posted by killa_connor 9 years ago
killa_connor
No one defined success or failure! The United Nations was created to, at the most basic level, promote internation cooperation. Which it has undoubtedly succeeded in achieving. I think Con succeeded in separating the UN from several contemporary international and human rights blunders, including the Iraq War. So my vote is going Con.

Great debate though guys!
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