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The United States should stop all unconditioned aid to Africa

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Started: 12/10/2007 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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mrmatt505

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For nearly fifty years, the United States has given trillions of dollars aid to Africa in hopes that we can solve for development, infrastructure, poverty, and diseases. We have set a far more dangerous precedent for the African individuals by providing aid to countries without putting any conditions on it. If we just keep giving aid to Africa without putting on a restriction for its use. Look on the bright side for America. We can still feel good about ourselves AND we can save money by not just throwing more money to a problem hoping that it will solve. Now we will have a more thought out plan for solving.
MikeGarcia

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Let me start off by saying that your point is well taken. If the circumstances were that the majority of the nations of Africa could just "stop being so lazy and actually DO something," as your argument makes it sound like, I wouldn't be having this debate with you. I actually agree with your view on unconditional aid when it comes to welfare and social programs in the United States, because yes, here in this great land, we DO have the ability to pull ourselves out from the gutter and make something of ourselves.

This is not the case in Africa, however. Most of Africa is plagued with some of the most corrupt governments in the world. Many of the governments in the African continent were were founded solely on European greed and profiting. As a whole, the states were mismanaged and exploited, which consequently played a devastating role in the countries' post-colonial infrastructures.

Take, for example, the country of Zaire. In Zaire, during the decades of Belgian rule, there was a lack of secondary or higher education. Once the country was granted independence, only sixteen individuals in the country had earned a degree from a university. Due to Zaire's newly established country status, this obviously placed it at a crucial disadvantage by dangerously handing the power over to a few individuals.

During Zaire's Mobutu regime, authoritarianism flourished. So began the country's infamous kleptocracy, which resulted in the loss of millions. Zaire was not the only location of the rise of these kleptocracies, as they occurred in Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Liberia, and Somalia as well.

So when you say that we should stop giving unconditional aid to Africa, you undermine all of the progress that has occurred there. More schools are present in Africa today than ever before, so as more and more African children become educated, the government's rule over the people's ignorance dwindles. To abandon that area of the world is not only unethical, but dangerous for us as a nation in terms of our safety at home and abroad. Uneducated children can easily be recruited by the likes of Al-Qaeda to do harm to the U.S. We must keep on promoting modern education, and giving aid to Africa, unconditionally, until their governments become more responsible with the power that has been given to them.
Debate Round No. 1
mrmatt505

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We must stop unconditioned aid to Africa to stop kleptocracies. Whenever we send aid to Africa willy nilly it is squandered by these foreign elites and they use it like currency amongst other elites and get money for the aid and then they pocket the cash or send it Swiss bank accounts. I can understand where you are coming from on the education in Zaire and I agree that when a society is well educated they can better speak out against their governments but if the governments establish themselves as superior and while the people are being oppressed the corrupt African leaders are investing in their own benefits such as a stronger military so that IF the people ever do retaliate against him, he will be ready to crush the opposition and maintain control. If we stop giving unconditioned aid and only give conditioned aid to Africa, we would be forcing corrupt regimes to follow our bylines if they want to survive because our aid is the only thing really keeping Africa afloat.

To find a happy median though between the two of us, I placed a clause in the topic specifying that the United States should stop all unconditioned aid to Africa, Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) however do not fall under the United States and will continue to give unconditioned aid successfully. The reason why we should allow NGOs to continue giving aid is because they are more grassroots based, they are not tied in with crazy bureaucracies, and they educate the people while supplying aid and the United States can never solve with unconditioned aid because we face the problems of bureaucracy, we don't stay at a grassroots level, and we do not educate the people when giving aid.

Hopefully these are clear reasons why we must reject the United States from giving aid that only fosters corruption and sets a more dangerous precedent to Africa and that the only course the US can take is to give conditioned aid to stop corruption where it stands.
MikeGarcia

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Debate Round No. 2
mrmatt505

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It looks like stopping all unconditioned aid is the best way to go! I need 100 character so I am still typing.
MikeGarcia

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by benb4544 9 years ago
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If you are worrying about enlarging the deficit you can relax. If it is already ENORMOUS, how would you add to that?? Would it be like Enormous plus .00000001 (there really isn't an impact. The argument lacks warrants and is mildly vague. Overall great debate.
Posted by iloveher666 9 years ago
iloveher666
thats .......... um wow
what will happen if we stop helping ans shurly we are doing good even though the money is getting shiped off over there
i mean why should we complain we are not starving. their is no famin here so... why should it be a propblem that we help a continate that is
Posted by mrmatt505 9 years ago
mrmatt505
Precisely my contention! NGOs all the way!
Posted by will1691 9 years ago
will1691
I think we should send money to Africa with the condition that it doesn't go to any more tin horn dictators who use it for their own selfish good.I truly think the best thing for Africa is more charity's.What Avril Lavigne and many other musicians and politicians have done on there own directly helps the people in Africa.So I guess I am for no US Government money being given to the leaders of Africa,but somehow strike an agreement with the leaders to let us have like the Peace Corps use the money and make the decisions to help people out there.
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