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Adam2
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JonathanDJ
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The Vikings should not be celebrated

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/18/2013 Category: Society
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Adam2

Pro

First round is for acceptance. In this debate I will argue that the Viking culture should not be condoned nor celebrated.
JonathanDJ

Con

Historical groups of people should not be politicized at all. To celebrate them or intentionally not celebrate them is over simplifying an entire culture.
Debate Round No. 1
Adam2

Pro

OK, first of all Vikings were not a race but an empire that composed of what is now modern day Denmark, Sweden, and maybe Norway to an extent. Their atrocities against the indigenous Britons for instance is documented. (http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk...). According to that source, "The monastery was sacked and the monks slaughtered. The "fury of the Northmen" in their streamlined long ships struck terror into people from the Northern Isles, Caithness, Sutherland, round western Scotland, and south to Dublin. The Vikings attacked Iona in AD 795, then again in AD 802. Four years later, in AD 806, the Vikings killed 68 monks by the shore at Martyr"s Bay." Cruel and merciless they were.
(http://fathom.lib.uchicago.edu...)
In another source, we see the graphic oppression and repression caused by the Vikings.
Now, let's establish some people influenced by this: the Ku Klux Klan. Pillaging, attacking people. Does this sound familiar? This is exactly what the Klan did in its time of power in America. They lynched blacks at random, terrorized them, oppressed them. I definitely believe the English colonists learned their wicked ways from the Vikings, because they had contact with them. Minnesota Vikings team probably has a history of discrimination and humiliating black opponent teams as well in humiliating games with N and C-word clashes. The Vikings they all admired too much.
JonathanDJ

Con

JonathanDJ forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Adam2

Pro

OK, here's the thing. The Vikings were merciless without compassion. There are things about them that make them worse than the Normans, Nazis or Romans. The pattern in which English colonists pretty much stole most of North America was similar to that of the Vikings. You can say being that the English themselves are the very Vikings that stole and displaced the Native Americans (and I've checked on Houseofnames.com [which is agood site, by the way], and some of the English surnames were actually found first in Saxony, giving evidence to possible Anglo-Saxon blood in the English; Tupper is a good example]). "The Vikings showed no special respect for Christian churches and monasteries. In fact, those were generally their first targets, since the Church owned so much of the wealth in Western Europe at the time." (http://www.flowofhistory.com...). Catholics were viciously persecuted by the Vikings. Whom does that sound like some 1100 years later, after the 800s? Let's see. Oh yes, the Ku Klux Klan, who during their time as rulers of America, lynched, raided and killed people at random who disagreed with them. Plus, can we really name any good thing that the Vikings even contributed? They, not the Catholic Church, are to blame for the Middle Ages if you ask me. After, many of the cultures of the Mediterranean did many great things, such as the Romans. And the Renaissance, a time of thought, came from a Catholic country. However in the places where the Vikings viciously conquered, they pretty much went downhill from there.
"Viking society was extremely unequal. Slavery was a fundamental contributor to the wealth of the upper class. Vikings participated actively in the lucrative slave trade abroad. The slaves had no rights and were owned like cattle."

"It is no wonder that the Vikings have a reputation for mindless savagery. Since the Vikings were unable to write, much of their history was recorded by British and French clergy"the very people who fell victim to the Viking raids." Mind you, while much of the history was recorded by the French and British, it's because they were the very victims of the Viking raids. Shame on them for doing such horrible things.
To me that's worse than Hitler, because all the things the Vikings did have had a lasting legacy. I wouldn't be suprised if there's a Scot or French person who harbors hatred towards the Vikings for what they did to them 1000s and 1000s of years ago.
The legacy of the Vikings is completely negative, almost. No it should not be celebrated
JonathanDJ

Con

JonathanDJ forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by LAQUAINE 3 years ago
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And the count is up. Adam2 has 50 minutes to post an argument! Oh the suspense is hurting!
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Reasons for voting decision: Con forfeited. Pro argued in every round.