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brian_eggleston
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TysonMarshall
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The churches should expand their gambling operations

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Started: 1/28/2010 Category: Religion
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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brian_eggleston

Pro

The churches are always moaning about falling church attendances and dwindling revenues and it is certainly true that churches have been haemorrhaging customers for years (1). Furthermore, with the demographics of the current congregations being so overwhelmingly dominated by the elderly, this situation is predicted to deteriorate even further as and when all the church-going coffin-dodgers succumb to the inevitable (2).

In order to reverse this decline and also to secure a prosperous financial future it is clear that the churches must broaden their appeal. Of course, the core business of the churches should remain peddling religion to the spiritually credulous and the emotionally vulnerable but hymns, prayers and sermons don't really appeal to hedonists, thrill-seekers or, indeed, pretty much anyone with a pulse! Therefore, the churches will need to provide something a bit more stimulating in order to attract a younger, more vibrant clientele.

But the question is "what?" Well, obviously it needs to be a money-spinner and also something that the churches would feel comfortable with. At the moment, churches raise some of their funds through gambling, usually in the form of raffles or bingo sessions, but these are quite dull, don't raise that much cash and don't attract new punters through the door.

Church-based casinos, on the other hand, would be very exciting and glamorous and would raise fortunes for the churches' coffers. You can imagine that an evening playing religious roulette, biblical blackjack and spiritual slot machines with Christian croupiers as hosts, perhaps followed by a meal of loaves and fishes washed down with communal wine served by worshipping waitresses in sexy cassocks would be a lot more appealing than the bible studies, bell-ringing and brass rubbing that churches currently use to attract younger people.

Furthermore, since people are going to gamble anyway, diverting punters away from traditional and online casinos and into the churches will mean that their money will be used to maintain historic buildings and help the poor rather than line the pockets of shady businessmen.

Also, the church-based casinos will give the vicars and priests an opportunity to mingle with the gamblers and try to convert them to Christianity, or at least flog them Bibles or rosary beads or fake holy relics.

In conclusion, the churches must move with the times and accept that people today have lower boredom thresholds than previous generations and by expanding their gambling operations to encompass church-based casinos they would attract more punters through the door and create a valuable new source of income into the bargain.

Thank you.

(1) http://www.churchsociety.org...
(2) http://www.timesonline.co.uk...
TysonMarshall

Con

"Dishonest gamble money dwindles away,
but he who gathers money little by little makes it grow.'
Proverbs 13:11
Debate Round No. 1
brian_eggleston

Pro

Thanks for that, Tyson. I suppose what you are saying is that Christians are supposed to invest their money in a high yield private equity fund rather than go down the bookies and punt it all on a rank outsider in the 3.15 at Newmarket?

Well, that may be wise advice but gambling in church-based casinos is actually a very Christian thing to do because the profits all go to good causes.

Indeed, the Bible teaches us that it is every adult's Christian religious duty to go to church to gamble money:

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity." - Corinthians Chapter 13, verses 11, 12 and 13

You see, this passage tells us the story of a young Christian who forgot all about his childish toys when he looked through the smoked glass window of a temple and saw men playing blackjack inside.

It then goes on to relate how his cards were dealt face up to him while the dealer's cards were dealt face down so he didn't know who would win. However he had faith in his ace-neutral counting system and he hoped for good luck, but in the end, if he lost, he knew that his stake would go to charity and that, from a Christian perspective, would actually be the best outcome.

You see, gambling in church-based casinos is morally and ecumenically sound because, at the end of the night, everyone's a winner man!

Thank you.
TysonMarshall

Con

The gambling industry is immoral.

"Gambling has a bad effect on society. It promotes crime, as those who lose their money steal to get more, or get drunk to drown out their sorrow. It contributes to greater poverty, as those who cannot afford to gamble do so anyway. It leads to addiction, for some are so obsessed by the hope of winning the jackpot that they gamble compulsively. And all these, in turn, put great stress on families, which results in more broken homes. Studies have demonstrated the truth of these assertions"

As you may well say; the end justifies the means. The motive excuses the acts.

Christians should be against gambling. Why? Because gambling is motified by greed, and greed is sin. gambling also encourages temptation in the form of "aww, just another 1, c'mon lucky number 7!" Therefore the Christians should be against it.

A church should get its earnings and funds from freewill acts of kindness, donations, and offerings to God.
"This is not the God ordained way for legitimate authorities, such as church and civil government, to raise money." If the winners used their money to benefit God, then it should be encouraged, but the winners can use the winnings for whatever they like, and for their own selfish needs.

If they gamble they lose money.
If they lose money, they go broke.
If they go broke, they steal.
If they steal, others go broke.
If others go broke, they will steal.
It will be a continous cycle until everybody is just stealing money off each other and nobody will be able to afford to maintain having a child, so nobody will have children, which will lead to the human race ending.
Therefore, Gambling = End of human race. :)

As for your bible quote, unfortunately i think you seem to of misinterpreted it, Brian. :P But i must say you are very funny, without crossing the line to being an absolute nutjob.

Sources:
http://www.prca.org...
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by TysonMarshall 7 years ago
TysonMarshall
I seem to be losing this debate..
Posted by TysonMarshall 7 years ago
TysonMarshall
Brian, you are a very funny person :)
Posted by brian_eggleston 7 years ago
brian_eggleston
And the same happened again!
Posted by brian_eggleston 7 years ago
brian_eggleston
Well, sorry Panda, this Aussie bloke accepted the debate but never posted an argument so it came back to me and since it took me a while to write I thought I'd re-submit it.
Posted by ToastOfDestiny 7 years ago
ToastOfDestiny
Lol @ eggleston.
Posted by alto2osu 7 years ago
alto2osu
Somebody wanna do my grad homework for me so I can take this debate? I heart you, Brian.
Posted by ZKnecht 7 years ago
ZKnecht
@Cherymenthol

You unchain it and sick it upon your enemies. Duh! XD
Posted by Cherymenthol 7 years ago
Cherymenthol
@Koopin

How do you "loose" a debate?
Posted by I-am-a-panda 7 years ago
I-am-a-panda
Father Ted is the best Irish show ever.
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