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# The earth is flat

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 Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point Started: 8/17/2015 Category: Science Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period Viewed: 1,100 times Debate No: 78774
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Posted by chtwrone 3 years ago
Daniel, the earth is a VERY large object, and the curvature of the earth will NEVER be THAT obvious to an observer from a low view-point. It appears however, that some people can discern the curvature of the earth from relatively low view points. Maybe it's a case of seeing what you want to see, and if you want to see some curvature, then you base your observations on this premise.
There are many accounts given by people that they have no trouble at all seeing the curvature of the earth from the luxury of a passenger jet flying at 35,000ft.
If you google 'International Space Station' and select 'images', you will see many pictures showing the obvious curvature of the earth. The ISS orbits at about 400km's, so the fact that the earth's curvature is obvious should come as no surprise. What you have to do now in your mind, is imagine yourself coming out of orbit from that great height, until you're back down to sea level, and then you will realise that it is necessary to be VERY high before an obvious curvature will start to become apparent.
I'm an air traffic controller who works in a control tower and I have seen on many occasions the contrails of aircraft cruising at over 30,000ft. Many of these aircraft are flying a flight path that is approximately 100 miles away and perfectly straight, and are flying tangentially to my viewpoint from either left to right or right to left. Sometimes these contrails persist for hundreds of miles and it's VERY obvious that these contrails have curvature (I have put a ruler up to them). You might propose that these aircraft are either climbing or descending, which might account for the curved contrails, but when looking at my radar screen, I can confirm by the aircraft's radar display, that it's height is unchanged whilst it's in long-range cruise mode.
To anybody that even remotely thinks the earth is flat, please abandon this fantasy, it's utter rubbish.
Posted by pr.Daniel_Jordan 3 years ago
Chtwrone, flat earthers say planets are spherical, but that our earth is not a planet.
Posted by chtwrone 3 years ago
One celestial phenomena that can't be explained in the flat-earth model, is that if the earth is flat, how is it possible that it can cast a curved shadow over the moon during a lunar eclipse? The simple answer is that it's impossible to do so.
Posted by hellywon 3 years ago
Either way, you have still conceded with my argument.

Good day to you, best wishes to your other debates
Posted by pr.Daniel_Jordan 3 years ago
You state in your last argument that I have disagreed with the idea that the earth is a sphere, when I have clearly said in my last and first post that I do not.
Posted by hellywon 3 years ago