The emancipation of slaves did not truly free them
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In the south, Slaves were eventually freed because of the emancipation proclamation- just not as sudden as we would have liked.
I would now like to define freedom as:" the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc."
And I would also like to define Human rights as: "Rights that belong to an individual as a consequence of being human."
Under this definition, the slaves were technically free. However, it would not be until later that amendments like the 12th, 13th, and 14th, which established fundamental rights to African Americans would be established. These amendments would give no freedoms- but rather Human Rights.
Definition 1: http://dictionary.reference.com...
Definition 2: http://www.merriam-webster.com...
I will section your argument into several different sections, and order them alphabetically.
Section A. You said, "slave masters had to kill the slaves to discipline them which was not very cost effective", however slave masters never killed slaves purposely for discipline. This would be pointless, and economically stupid. Most of the time, the only punishment was given through whips, and beatings. I do not believe that any of the arguments given in section A pertain to the topic, but I will move on anyways.
Section B. There was a lot of talk about lynching, and it's history, however I would like to point out that the Emancipation Proclamation never said anything about lynching, so this argument is also irrelevant. This section also talked about The separation from body and mind. However, this is more in line with torture, which is a legal action of many governments today, therefore, this is not necessarily a violation of freedom under my definition, but rather an issue of human rights.
Section C. In this section, you said, "Back then we were producers but now we are just consumer nearly trapped in a perpetual cycle." I understand this to be true, and it is very unfortunate. Perhaps the worst of all is how many people now a days feel like African Americans would be better off still as slave.
I would like to state that you did not mention the Emancipation Proclamation, or how it pertained to freedom, and therefore you abstained to the topic.
Thank you for this time to speak, I have finished speaking for round 2.
So I will start off with the definition argument. I see as you have given no scenario in which your definition should take precedence, I gave a situation in which slavery has moved from physical to mental meaning that freedom in the form of making decisions free from restraint has not been met which defaults to pro in terms of voting because African Americans are slaves to a perpetual cycle.
Response to A you corroborated my point that masters were killing slaves so they needed a new method to control slaves. Think about it whipping would bring the slave to anger and would eventually lead the slave to rise up against his master. However whipping was used as a method of discipline the masters had to break the slave to ensure that the whipping not be brought back upon them in the form of violence. It pertains to the topic because we are discussing freedom this just serves as an inception of mental bondage which is used as a foundation for evidence in my case.
Response to B - I never said that the emancipation had anything to do with lynching .I brought up lynching as another liaison from argument to my overall main point. The methods lynch used ultimately over time left slaves incapable to think autonomously on their own. It is very relevant just wait and see
You supported my point that African Americans were more valuable then than they are now. Let me tie all these loose ends together to make a seamless argument. Slaves were broken on the plantations. After the emancipation proclamation was issued freed slaves returned right back to the plantations. Do you think that they wanted to, it was not because they wanted to, it was because they had to. Think about, freedmen who have to return back to the plantation to continue their meager existence only with some amendment declaring their freedom. Does that sound like freedom to you? A limited amount of options to continue the form of slavery in a more discrete way. This new form of slavery will need more than an emancipation to set us free this time. It will take enlightenment. This is why the emancipation did not truly free the slaves.
About your first point: I do not believe that "whipping would bring the slave to anger and would eventually lead the slave to rise up against his master. " The point of the whippings and beatings was to break the slaves down mentally, and to fully brainwash them into believing they were in superior simply because of skin color. In no way did the slave masters ever beat a slave so the salve would revolt. This is a ridiculous claim.
Moving on to your second point: This point is irrelevant because the first lynch ever recorded happened well over 20 years after slavery was abolished. On top of this, I still do not see how this relates to the overall topic of the Emancipation Proclamation.
Finally, your third contingency: The north was fairly shy on plantations, so when the Emancipation Proclamation was passed, the former slaves did not have very many places to go, and the majority of them were not going to go back to the place they had been beaten, and starved for all of their lives. You also failed to recognize that the slaves were technically not forced to go back to plantations, therefore this argument does not disprove my points, rather it disproves yours.
The emancipation proclamation provided a beacon of hope for slaves trapped in the south, and it freed slaves in the north. The beacon of hop would later be the reason pecan pie the 12th, 13th, and 14th amendment were passed, which would ultimately be the reason why the emancipation proclamation 'freed' the slaves.
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