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Condor117
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The Contender
Sagey
Con (against)
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24 Points

The evolution theory is false

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Sagey
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/11/2013 Category: Education
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Condor117

Pro

The evolution theory is complete rubbish. It is at most a guess made by people who can't accept anything but fact
Sagey

Con

Interesting Initial statement Pro, firstly implying that people who accept nothing but fact will deliberately produce Rubbish.
Hmm! If it was Rubbish, people who only accept Fact, would not accept it.
So in that case, if Evolution Theory is demonstrably Rubbish, those Fact seeking people who made the theory would not accept it and would dispose of it in order to create something which satisfies their need for Fact.

Somehow you opened the debate with an Oxymoron.
Nice! :-D~
Debate Round No. 1
Condor117

Pro

Condor117 forfeited this round.
Sagey

Con

I wish Pro would define some constraints on the topic and present some Falsities of Evolution, along with verifiable evidence that confirms the claims of Evolution are indeed false.
Debate Round No. 2
Condor117

Pro

Condor117 forfeited this round.
Sagey

Con

Tch Tch :-D~
Debate Round No. 3
Condor117

Pro

Condor117 forfeited this round.
Sagey

Con

Under the circumstances I will have to take the lead.
If evolution theory was False, we would not be able to genetically modify crops, cross breed different species through gamete manipulation and track a series of changes through fossils.
Much of the work of genetics and even medicine, deals with aspects predicted through the Theory of Evolution.
Tracking genetically inherited diseases and conditions in family groups is an evolutionary consideration.
Evolution does not deal with origins of life, as why should it?
There is no real practical use in why life started billions of years ago.
There is far more useful work in using the knowledge gained through Evolution science to cure diseases, preserve flora and fauna (plants and wildlife) on this amazing planet.
Those who doubt and even oppose Evolution, like Pro, usually do so from an Irrational perspective.
Evolution either:
1: Does not fit into their mostly egotistic, human centric, religion indoctrinated, idealistic world view, because humans are not the supreme beings and masters of everything as their narcissistic god(s) supposedly told them, instead, they are just another living organism, sharing a seemingly uncaring planet and universe with other competing and symbiotic organisms.

2: Because their education and knowledge of reality is so extremely poor, that they believe in the lies of confidence tricksters and usurpers like the Young Earth Creationist Authors and their websites that spew out nothing but unscientific, bigoted, badly researched untruths in order to sell books, get donations and construct monuments to their extreme ignorance, such as the Creation Museum and large Noah's Ark replicas.

Though I always ask them the following Question:
>If we really did find something that demonstrated that "The Theory Of Evolution" was lacking or False, What Would We Replace It With?
Many quickly jump to stating that their pet non-scientific ideology like Creationism or "Intelligent Design" would suddenly become the chosen or only replacement for Evolution.

Which is entirely Wrong: Because in order to overthrow any scientific Theory, it must be a better, more comprehensive Scientific Theory.
Since religious based ideological concepts like Creationism and it's name changed copy "Intelligent Design" are not Scientific Theories, nor are they comprehensive (explain all the things that Evolution explains adequately), it certainly cannot even begin to be a replacement for Evolution.

The only real replacement for Evolution, can only be a Revised version of Evolution with the faulty concept repaired.
As there are no other comprehensive Theories of Life On Earth, to compete with Evolution.
The Replacement of a defeated or damaged Evolution, could only be an updated Evolution.

Because, historically, Evolution has proven itself to be reliable, useful, verifiable and mostly Truthful to a high degree.
Scientists have been trying to Falsify Evolution since Darwin put it onto paper, over 150 years ago.
So far, none of those highly trained and Rational scientists have been able to demonstrate that Evolution is False.

As with all Scientific Theories, if Evolution has indeed been shown as False, the entire world would know about it and scientists in all the evolution fields would be scrambling to produce a better Theory Of Evolution, version 2.

If genuine scientists cannot find any scientific faults in evolution.
It is highly improbable that, the scientifically naive Creationist leadership and the deliberately Fraudulent Creationist Scientists would ever really be able to find cracks in Evolution, nor have a hope of proving that, The Evolution Theory Is False.

http://en.wikipedia.org...
http://ncse.com...
http://nas-sites.org...
Enjoy :-D~
Debate Round No. 4
Condor117

Pro

Condor117 forfeited this round.
Sagey

Con

No it's Not!!! :-D~
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by makhdoom5 3 years ago
makhdoom5
lol.
cong.
sagey
Posted by Sagey 3 years ago
Sagey
Maybe we can have a race on who can post the quickest forfeits.

Or, who can make their Forfeit more meaningful.

LOL! :-D~
Posted by TheSquirrel 3 years ago
TheSquirrel
Don't hold your breath. I'm sensing a forfeit in the near future.
Posted by Sagey 3 years ago
Sagey
At this stage, I'm simply awaiting Pro's list of Falsities in The Theory Of Evolution, the evidence and the confirmation from genuine scientific Peer Review that this evidence indeed falsifies Evolution.
Without these, I have no argument, as there is nothing so far to define this debate's topic.
Posted by TheSquirrel 3 years ago
TheSquirrel
Oh man I nearly pooped myself on that first statement.
Posted by Jakeross6 3 years ago
Jakeross6
This will be fun to watch.
Posted by asu1 3 years ago
asu1
The opening statement contradicts itself...
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Reasons for voting decision: Sorry you had to wait thru a 5 round forfeit for your first win. Interesting case in round 4 I like it. Dropped arguments and conduct for forfeit.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro accomplished a rare seven point loss. S&G for his only sentence being nonsensical. Conduct for forfeiting. Arguments for making no case of his own and not rebutting Con's. Sources for having none, while Con had some reliable sources.
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Reasons for voting decision: Well, at least he knows how to spell, write, and act. However, his debate style is a little lacking. He tends to use inaction as action. In the DDO world, we call this forfeiting.
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Reasons for voting decision: FF