The few, the brave, the "we are entitled"! LOL!
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There are many examples of this. I will give two.
# 1 Being born poor in this country automatically means you will receive a poor quality education, diet, and health care. Students in low income areas of the country are not given the same level of education as those in more affluent parts of the country. When you can barely read or do math the world becomes a series of closed doors and you are already destined to make less in your lifetime than those that can do math and read. When it comes to diet, low income families are provided with such a small amount of money to purchase food that they inevitable choose the food that is the cheapest. As anyone that has visited a grocery store knows a box of macaroni and cheese is much more affordable, feeds more, and leaves you feeling fuller than spend that same $0.79 on one apple. This lack of proper nutrition sets children up for life long health and weight issues. The lack of adequate health care that is available to the disadvantaged is most clearly seen when individuals look at birth control. When women are given access to affordable. long term birth control they are able to ensure that the children they have are better provided for. This form of birth control also allows more girls to stay in school, graduate, and get a higher paying job.
#2 Minorities in America ear a lower wage than their white male counterparts. This fact is seen the most in minority women. How are you to reach the American Dream when you are automatically punished for being a non-white female? While the wage gap for white women is 78 cents per dollar that there white male counterparts make that amount drops dramatically when race is added to the equation. Hispanic women only make 53 cents to every dollar white males (with the same qualifications) makes. This huge wage disparity not only puts the women in a position were they cannot live an equal life style as white males, it automatically place any children they have in a lower starting position.
Instead of demanding people end the same, why don't we ensure they start the same.
Here is my refutation of your round two arguments:
You have offered a substitution fallacy. Because you move to intensional statements that I "wish for equality while condemning any human based on race or sex," your argument is invalid. The same is true for the argument that I "desire a coalition of darker skinned folks, and women, and children to follow [my] lead, and to improve [my] condition."
Would you please offer a valid argument that either furthers your claim or refutes my argument? Your next round should have evidence that can be verified without requiring a specific point of view or requiring any preexisting beliefs.
The fallacy here is your supposition that we are given an equal starting point beyond a penis and a vagina. Do you advocate for judicial powers of reproductive control? How the hell will you do that? We a all created equally, by sex. Whatever happens after that point is pure luck or suck. That is a fact.
If I read your reply correctly you are stating that people enjoy equal opportunity at birth, but only within their sex. In my above arguments I have show that is not true and factors, such as being born into a low income family, can be like an anvil around your neck.
While I agree that both your gender and your sexual orientation have a large impact on your equality in both social and economic settings, for entertainment sake, let's look at your claim that it is the only thing that makes us unequal.
You said, in your opening, that "Equality is paying your fair share." If we look at that and your assertion that people are born unequal due to their "sex" (I am assuming you mean gender) then it follows that men and women are not being paid equally. Since "equality is paying your fair share" you must also apply this definition to the employers that are not paying men and women equally. Therefor, to be equal, employers need to pay men and women equally.
We can also expand this argument out to include race, sexual orientation, religion, etc.
I have shown through facts and logic that not only are people born unequal, but that our government should work to give everyone a equal start in life. There are a myriad of ways to do this, but ensuring everyone gets the same education, nutrition, and health care are paramount in creating a solution. When we talk about equal health care I am including equal access to birth control. It is giving low income women the ability to get long term birth control that will allow them to have control of their lives. When women control their reproductive health they drastically improve their economic potential.
Thank you for debating with me.
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