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HempforVictory
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The format on debate.org should be changed to encourage more comments on debates

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Started: 1/2/2008 Category: Technology
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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HempforVictory

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As it currently works on debate.org, when a user clicks on a subject tab there are displayed ten links to debates in the voting period and ten to current debates, each complete with a preview. They are ordered based on which debate had an argument posted most recently, so for debates in the voting period, they are ordered based only on which debate ended last. This means that a debate that has inspired lots of commenting from other users will be on the second page as soon as ten other debates in that category finish, and will than be forgotten.

Priority should also be given to debates that have new comments in order to keep alive these secondary discussions, for they may be just as interesting as the actual debate, if not more so. This way, debates that receive a lot of attention will remain at the top of the list, while those that nobody cares about will quickly move to the bottom.

Since it would not be unlikely for there to be more than ten debates with new comments and/or arguments, it would be prudent to expand the first page of each subject to accommodate more than ten debate links. However, this would be very cumbersome and would take up a lot of space, unless if the previews are discarded. They are not really necessary as long as the title is named appropriately. I would also suggest adding some useful information about the debates such as the number of rounds, the number of comments, and who is currently winning(pro or con), but this is really trivial.

Because many users are interested in having open discussions on serious topics, and because serious debaters want to inspire discussions on their debates, I believe that users and potential users would be more pleased with this website if my suggestions are incorporated.
solo

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I disagree. I think the format on debate.org should be changed to eliminate comments on the debates until after the debate is over. The site is set up for two debaters to square off head-to-head, but allowing comments to be posted during the debates allows outside influences to help any given side, thus making the debate unfair.

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At the bottom of each category there is a link labeled: "more..."
If you click this link, it takes you to a page that has numbered links at the bottom that allow you to view ALL OF THE DEBATES, so that none of them have to be forgotten, unless you choose to forget.

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Therein lies the unfairness of the site. I'd prefer for the debaters not to be able to see the comments during the debate, but that isn't a realistic expectation. Discouraging comments on debates during the debate is the most fair course of action.

<> ...which would only cause new problems, because you cannot guarantee that every debater will do just that.

<> I agree, so I won't comment on this, at this time.

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As a user, I would NOT "be more pleased with this website if [your] suggestions are incorporated", which negates your belief in this argument.

Thank you.
Debate Round No. 1
HempforVictory

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"I think the format on debate.org should be changed to eliminate comments on the debates until after the debate is over."

I would agree with that, my main concern is in regards to completed debates. My wish is for the completed debates to serve as a basis for discussion, not so much the current debates.

"At the bottom of each category there is a link labeled: "more..."
If you click this link, it takes you to a page that has numbered links at the bottom that allow you to view ALL OF THE DEBATES, so that none of them have to be forgotten, unless you choose to forget."

I am aware of the "more" link, perhaps I should have refrained from using the metaphor of being forgotten. As it currently stands, members engaged in a discussion in the comments of one of the debates must make an effort to find the debate if it is not very recent, which makes it much easier for them to forget about it than if it were on the first page. More importantly, other users of the site have no idea that there is a meaningful discussion going on in the comments of one of the debates without blindly looking through them. By giving priority to debates with new comments, other members will know that a particular debate is still active with comments. On that same token, commenters will have the benefit of other users being more likely to read their comments, as there is currently no indication that a debate has recently been commented on.

"They are not really necessary as long as the title is named appropriately.>> ...which would only cause new problems, because you cannot guarantee that every debater will do just that."

Frankly, if they don't know how to properly title their debate, that's their problem. Readers will quickly realize that a debate's title is misleading and can easily hit the back button after voting for the opponent.

"As a user, I would NOT "be more pleased with this website if [your] suggestions are incorporated", which negates your belief in this argument."

Well, I should have indicated that I was referring to many or a majority of users, and not necessarily all users. In which case, your disagreement would not negate my argument.
solo

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I made the point that "I think the format on debate.org should be changed to eliminate comments on the debates until after the debate is over."

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Yes, but you've only made that distinction in the final round of the debate and you made no mention of that in Round One. In all your suggestions that you would have incorporated into the site, you failed to mention this one, which is more important than any of the changes you've brought up. Overall fairness should be considered before the popularity of any given debate topic.

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Then you are obviously not aware of the "Watch" feature that is a link directly below the "Technology" category on the page of every debate. After you've decided that a debate is worthy of your personal attention, you can click the link and it will be EASILY retrievable on the "Watched Debates" Page. If you want to quickly and easily get to an interesting debate you just go there! It's so simple.

<>

Yes, but there's no accounting for taste. The people that come to Debate.org are all different, representing different demographics. We don't all like the same stuff or find interest in the same topics.

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I disagree. This change will only promote TROLLING.

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No, it's also the problem for the people who have to sift through the debates, if your suggested system were put into place.

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It isn't necessary, as folks can avoid the tedious task of having a pointless debate load on their screen and determine that the back button needs pushing if the site is left just as it is.

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What I've found on debate.org is that you have to argue what you mean, as no one here should be expected to read your intentions.

Thanks for the debate!
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