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A.K
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Allrounder
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The gender wage gap is a concern

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A.K
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/19/2014 Category: Economics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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A.K

Con

Definitions:
"Gender wage gap": a difference in the pay between men and women
"Concern": a societal or economic issue serious enough to warrant government action

These terms may be negotiated.

Statistics are expected, and poor use of statistics should result in less votes.

For the first round, acceptance (no arguments).
Allrounder

Pro

I do believe gender wage gap is an issue of concern.
Debate Round No. 1
A.K

Con

Alright!

First, I believe that the gender wage gap is a myth that comes from statistical illusion. The "a woman makes 77 cents for every dollar a man makes" line is a myth. According to this (http://www.thedailybeast.com...), a woman actually makes 91 cents for every dollar a man makes. This myth is a result of poor statistics and unscientific methods

Second, any "wage gap" is most likely a result of poor choice of careers. According to my earlier source, many women choose "soft" careers. Women are far more likely to *choose* a career in something like education, which doesn't pay as well as jobs that men *choose*, such as engineering.

Third, even if a "wage gap" was an actual issue, government should not be in the business of legislating it. In Norway (Source: Reuters: http://www.reuters.com...), all public companies' board of directors must be 40% female. Isn't that outrageous? This is why *government should not legislate a wage gap.* And, as a corollary of my definition of "Concern," which you submitted too, if government should not legislate the wage gap, than the wage gap is not an issue.

To you, pro.
Allrounder

Pro

Allrounder forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
A.K

Con

Anyone want a rematch?
Allrounder

Pro

Okay!
the gender pay gap (also known as gender wage gap, male"female income difference, gender gap in earnings, gender earnings gap, gender income difference) is the difference between male and female earnings expressed as a percentage of male earnings, according to the OECD.
Still in 2013, it's frustrating to note that the workplace has not yet followed suit. Gender discrimination tarnishes us all. If you're a woman, whether in the public or private sector, you are likely to be paid less than your male counterpart. Women's access to higher education has eased this pay disparity somewhat, but the Center for American Progress insists that women would need a doctoral degree to earn the same as men with a bachelor's degree.

Aside from fairness issues, gender pay discrimination is not economically healthy because companies are better off when they have more women in management roles. CNBC quotes a 2011 survey by Catalyst showing that company boards made up of 19 to 44 percent women achieved 26 percent more return on invested capital than those firms with no women board members. It also makes it difficult to recruit women to these high responsibility positions when they know they'll be paid less than their male counterparts.

This data supports the Daily Mail's view that "The economy is losing billions of pounds because of gender segregation," compounded by the dishonorable fact that "high-flying women in Britain are paid nearly 10 percent less than men doing exactly the same job." The figures speak for themselves. Daily Kos reports that college-educated women are on average making $7,600 less a year than their male counterparts. Not because they choose fields that are less lucrative, or have family commitments, but simply because they are female. After removing all other biases, neither education, nor occupational prestige, nor career success seems to protect women from the gender wage gap. Decades after the 1963 Equal Pay Act was passed, it's shameful to read headlines in Forbes that say "there is no denying that women get paid less for doing the same jobs as men."

Here are some facts :
Women earn less when they get the same education.
Women earn less in virtually every job.
Women earn less thanks to discrimination.
Women earn less when they balance children and careers.
Debate Round No. 3
A.K

Con

A.K forfeited this round.
Allrounder

Pro

Allrounder forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by humanright2debate 3 years ago
humanright2debate
Please conclusion more on science proof and statistics than any tom,jack random article you could pick off. One of the main factor is pregnancy, during pregnancy female mood changed due to hormonal unbalance, training new employees or finding talent will cost extra , what about top confidential stuff or critical roles, and pregnancy Rights in the Workplace is being covered well which going to cost extra for the company .
Posted by Jifpop09 3 years ago
Jifpop09
Its definitely not a concern IMO, as I believe the wage gap is very thin. I'll vote though, and know, that I can be easily swayed on this issue. Con will not be getting conduct though for pro's forfeit, because what he did is equivalent to a FF himself. I wish the contestants luck.
Posted by adiver 3 years ago
adiver
In response to "Carthage" that is untrue, there is a wage gap. The government made false reports saying there wasn't one, a few years ago and there is an investigation going on about it now. President Obama is trying to close it, if there was no wage gap what is he trying to close?
Posted by A.K 3 years ago
A.K
*whisper* I agree with you, shh!
Posted by Carthage 3 years ago
Carthage
There is no gender wage gap. http://online.wsj.com...
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Vote Placed by Rhodesia79 3 years ago
Rhodesia79
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Reasons for voting decision: Well both forfeited at least once and both had good grammar, so those are both tied. Con had a great source. Showing how far socialism has spread in Europe. Con made more sense in the end.
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Reasons for voting decision: Well, I had a long bathroom debate over who was going to get the argument point. In simple terms, Con established a basis that the gender gap is hardly even there, which was dropped by pro. Sources go to no one. Conduct goes to Pro