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Started: 5/9/2014 Category: Entertainment
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Hello everybody. This should be a great debate. I, DarthKirones will be taking the pro, or in this case marvel side. How this will work is that all 5 rounds of this debate will be used for debating. Each round features 2 characters, one marvel character and one DC character.

These are the four match-ups
Iron Man vs Batman
Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern
Jean Grey vs Wonder Woman
Hulk vs Superman

Since we only get one round to debate each match up there is no rebuttals.

I wish you luck


This is gonna be epic.
Your turn!
Debate Round No. 1


Wow. Now THIS is awesome.


IRON MAN (Anthony Stark) VS. BATMAN (Bruce Wayne)

"Iron Man is one of the most widely known superheroes in the world. Anthony "Tony" Stark was born with extreme intelligence. After the death of his parents when he was 21, Stark inherited Stark Enterprises. After being wounded while in a war zone, he built an armored suit that would help keep him alive. Stark helped to organize the superhero team, The Avengers early in his career as a superhero. Originally, Tony Stark had no powers of his own, and he depended on his armored suit for all of his super abilities, until he injected himself the Extremis virus and later had an arc reactor implanted in his chest, gaining new abilities and intellect."


The most recognizable part of Iron Man is his armor. How many sets of armor does he have? 10? 20? 30? All wrong. In the main Marvel comic universe Iron Man has made 70 sets of armors. All of them more powerful the the other. Each armor has different purpose, like the Hulkbuster armor. These armors carry weapons like lasers and machine guns., much more then a utility belt could carry! The thing that tops it all is the Iron Man suit's flight capabilities. Can Batman fly in his suits? I don't think so! Currently Iron Man's favorite armor is MK 42. The capabilities of this armor include Wrist-mounted armor piercing taser guns, Hacking units. UV laser, Repulsor mini-gun, Explosive decompression unit, Augmented back-thrusts gear, Anti-electric counter measure Shields and Wrist-mounted missiles. Now THAT is what I call a utility belt!

Iron Man photo

Another VERY useful tool of Tony Stark is the arc reactor, or the rt node.

"Tony is able to interact with different types of energies and forces a normal human cannot. The R.T. node acts like a new sense for its user. The reactor's excessive generation of energy provides Stark with an increased amount of intelligence and gave him superhuman-level multitasking and learning capabilities."

When using the rt node Iron Man can fire repulsor beams at enemies, he can also create a magnetic field, levitate, increase his strength and senses and defend himself from telepathic attacks.

Why is this rt node so important? It's because not only as Iron Man but as Tony Stark can he defend himself. Does Bruce Wayne have something that can protect himself from others when he is simply a business and and not the caped-crusader? Not to my knowledge!


Iron Man nor Batman have any super powers but with their gear they have many powers that some more natural superheroes do not have. One of the great feats of Iron Man is his ability to lift 100 tons or more. If he gets more power then he can lift more, much more. Speed and flight go hand in hand. While some may think that with a suit of metal you would be very slow but yet Iron Man pulls it off. On average the suit and it's wearer will only go up to mach 10 but now Iron Man can outfly black holes. That is fast.

In my opinion the most useful tool of Iron Man is his onboard computer. The computer helps Iron Man devise battle strategy, look up opponents, their histories, strengths and weaknesses plus the computer can prevent targeting lock.

But wait, there is more!

If Batman were to somehow get the advantage over iron Man I think that the defensive abilities of Iron Man and his suits would help out hugely. Iron Man's suit's are very durable. In Avengers VS X-Men issue 12 Iron Man and the avengers were facing off against the Dark Phoenix, one of the most powerful characters to ever exist and Iron Man took a small amount of damage in the final battle.

Another defensive strength of Iron Man is his Energy Shield. The shield allows Iron Man to repulse attacks and stay mobile. At a mere 2% power that shield can deflect a nuclear explosion. Batman is no atom bomb.

It would take way too long to cover all Iron Man's abilities as the abilities change with the armor. These are just the most powerful abilities I could find. If you want to review some other abilities there is a link to were I got these powers from at the end of the speech.

Anthony Stark (Earth-616) from Iron Man Vol 5 2 002


Tony Stark is not a genius. He is a SUPER-Genius.

"Quite apart from the powers granted him by the suit, Tony Stark is far more than a mechanical engineering prodigy who graduated from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology with honors at the age of 17. With an intelligence classed as super-genius, he easily is one of the smartest people on Earth. Furthermore, this extends to his remarkable ingenuity dealing with difficult situations such as difficult foes and death raps where he is capable of using his available tools, like his suit, in unorthodox and effective ways, as an example: when he built the first Iron Man armor in captivity. He has also been able to hack even technology from the aliens Karee, a race centuries more advanced than humans"

Told you.

In the face of battle he is an expert tactician and a brilliant engineer. With the help of his computer and his brain he can formulate battle plans in mere seconds, and with his brilliance in the subject of engineering he can repair almost any piece of technology.

He is also a skilled marksman and a very skilled combatant.

Anthony Stark (Earth-616) from Iron Man Vol 5 1 Hastings Variant cover


Iron Man's only true weakness is his dependency on the rt node. His extremis-modified body rely's on the rt node and without it Iron Man very well could die. The thing is is that it is very unlikely if not impossible for Batman to exploit this weakness.

This is why Iron Man is superior.

Thank you for accepting and I hope you do great!


Here we go:

Batman's Abilities

Though batman does not have any superhuman powers, he his still a foe that you would be wise not to cross paths with. Batman is regarded as "one of the world's greatest detectives, if not the world's greatest crime solver....He is efficient with observation skills, logical reasoning, and forensic investigation" Thus, in a battle with a foe, and that enemy runs away, batman could easily use his detective skills to catch up with them, quick. Batman is also extremely strong in martial arts: "Batman has been repeatedly described as one of the greatest martial artists in the DC Universe." What's more, batman can withstand telepathy and mind control, and can tolerate extreme amounts of pain yet still function as if nothing was going on.

Batman's Costume

This is an aspect of Batman that you shouldn't, and won't, look over. His costume bears the image of a bat to scare, frighten, or intimidate criminals or foes.

Batman has very distinct features, such as his scallop-hem cape, the cowl that covers most of his face, the two very recognizable bat-like ear-things, and the yellow and black logo on his chest. But what makes this suit extra special is the main body suit, with similar properties to Kevlar and Nomex. Kevlar is a fiber that is known to be Five times stronger than iron. Hear that? 5 time stronger than iron. Oh, look, ironman, your iron suit is 5 times weaker than batman’s! What’s more, is that batman’s suit also has similar properties to the Fiber Nomex, that has fire resistant abilities.

Batman’s Belt

This belt is one of the most underrated and awesome gadget for batman. This belt has tools including (just the most important ones), but not limited to:

Batarangs- a form of throwing weapon that is foldable do that a large amount if them can fit into the belt. There are many types of batarangs- “Explosive batarangs explode once they hit their target.[12] Electric batarangs deliver powerful electric shocks to whatever they come in contact with. These batarangs can electrocute enemies or overload electronic devices. Remote-controlled batarangs let Batman fully steer the batarang via a remote control. These are used when a straight line of sight isn't possible.”

Grapple gun- a gun that shoots out a grappling hook so that batman can swing and get pulled to where the grapple has hooked.

Cryptographic sequencer- “With this computer-like device, Batman can hack into computer systems, communications frequencies, etc.

Lock pick


Thermite Grenades- used to burn through obstacles

Stun Pellets- “Emit bright light and loud sound to completely blind and deafen enemies.”

Disruptor- “Batman's disruptor can remotely disable guns and projectile weapons, and can remotely deactivate grenades and other explosives.

Freeze Grenades- “Based on technology created by Mr. Freeze, these grenades encase anything in their blast radius in a block of ice. They are useful for freezing enemies to incapacitate them, as well as freezing water to create ice platforms to walk on.”

The Vehicles:

Batman has used multiple vehicles over his career: Batmobile,Batplane, Batboat, and the Batcycle. The most famous of these is the Batmobile:

The bat mobile (above) is “depicted as an imposing black car with large tailfinsthat suggest a bat's wings.” Batman uses this useful car to drive quickly to his destination.

Thank you,



Debate Round No. 2


Good job on the last argument. I hope you do even better on the next.

ROUND TWO: SILVER SURFER (Norrin Radd) VS Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

" Norrin Radd lived on the peaceful planet Zenn-La (Deneb System, Milky Way Galaxy). His race was so advanced that there was no need for crime or violence. One day their peaceful existence was threatened by the presence of Galactus, the Devourer of Worlds. The Council of Scientists let Norrin use a spaceship to approach Galactus and plea for the sake of the planet. Galactus agreed to spare the planet in exchange for Norrin to become one of the Heralds of Galactus. Given a fraction of the Power Cosmic, Norrin was transformed into the Silver Surfer."


Overall the Silver Surfer has little need for weapons and tools, but the thin that makes him the surfer is the Cosmic Surfboard! Practically impervious to damage just like his body, the surfboard allows him to travel faster and better! Plus, it makes a pretty good shield.

If necessary the silver surfer will use weapons such as when he was turned into a gladiator on the planet of Sakaar. This was a rare case and the Silver Surfer prefers his powers over weapon


The Silver Surfer is in my opinion one of the most if not the most underrated superhero in marvel. He can match Thor and the Hulk and is clearly the most powerful herald of Galactus to ever roam the universe. As stated before Norrin Radd was not born as the Silver Surfer but was transformed into the Silver Surfer. He now has many powers.

The power of the Silver Surfer stems from the power cosmic. The power cosmic grants Norrin Radd many abilities, the most powerful is energy absorption and manipulation.

"The absorption of electromagnetic energy is the base of the Surfer's life and power. The Surfer has complete control of the four fundamental forces of the universe, reaching nearly any effect he desires. As a result, the Surfer can absorb, manipulate and discharge energy of the entire electromagnetic spectrum at incredible levels surpassing Nova with the Nova Force and Quasar, and with sufficient destructive force to destroy planets. Currently, at maximum, his beams are capable of almost killing Ravenous, equaling Thanos, and hurting Thor in Asgardian armor. Additional abilities include erecting force fields, phasing through solid matter, accelerating the evolution of lifeforms on a planet-wide scale [28], seeing the past by peeling back the layers of time, time travel , trans dimensional travel, bestowing limited cosmic powers to others, reading minds, casting illusions , and influencing human emotion and sensation. The Surfer also possesses the ability to suppress the powers of other mutants/beings, making them temporarily or permanently unable to use them. He can heal living beings, even if they are near-death. He cannot, however, raise the dead."

Along with energy manipulation he can manipulate matter itself. He can rearrange molecules, turn solids into gases. He can make worlds with his power. The power cosmic gives him all of this. The silver surfer is capable of saving and destroying matter itself with his pinkie finger. That is why you do not mess with the silver surfer.

Even without using the power cosmic the Silver Surfer is still one of the most powerful characters in marvel. His strength level is in the superhuman class and to be precise he has the same amount of strength as Thor. When he uses the power cosmic however he becomes much stronger, to the point no one knows the exact amount.

The Silver Surfer is more durable then he is strong. When being"Re-Built" By Galactus his skin was made impervious to almost anything. Even the power of a black hole cannot crush the Surfer of Silver. "His entire body was made highly resistant to injury, and he is thus invulnerable to almost all types of physical harm" He is as durable if not more durable then the Hulk at his angriest.

The other two powers I find worth mentioning are the limitless stamina of the Silver Surfer and his Self-Sustenance. His body cannot develop fatigue toxins, get body stress or even sweat. He almost never tires and can fight for very long times. His other stamina related power is his self-sustenance. Instead of eating and breathing he has cosmic energy flowing through his shiny body. This is what keeps him alive. I don't know if this would benefit him in a battle, but never the less this is still a useful skill.

Norrin Radd (Earth-616) by Granov 002


The Silver Surfer is not an experienced hand-to-hand combatant, relying on his power cosmic for fights. However during his time as a gladiator on Sakaar he gained much experience as a fighter turning him into a man who rely's only on his powers into a well rounded warrior that can take on almost anyone.


None in particular. Overall the Silver Surfer is one of the best marvel characters ever to be created. With the power cosmic and his surfboard he can best many heroes and villains in combat whether as a herald of Galactus or the champion of the arena on Sakaar.

Thanks Jacobie1121, your turn.

And to top it all off, here is a photo of the Silver Surfer making the Hulk and his buddies look like a bunch of babies!



Ok here it goes:

Now that is a great comic. But anyways:

The Ring

This special piece of jewellery makes green lantern one of the most powerful superheroes. It has many abilities, including but not limited to:

Energy Projection- Green Lantern can use this ability to fire blasts of energy at the will of the user. Also, without an alter to the appearance of the blast, the owner can will the energy to be stronger and weaker as they choose.

Force Field- The wearer can create a force field for themselves and the people around them that they want to protect.

Energy Constructs- “The ring can form constructs of Oan energy. The primary function of the Power Ring is to provide a weapon capable of transforming the wearer's thoughts into physical constructs through the wearer's strength of willpower. A Green Lantern can create any particular items or construct that they can imagine as long as they have the willpower necessary to will it into existence. The constructs are made out of bright green energy, which is a tangible form of pure willpower, and they exist only as long as a Green Lantern is fueling it with their willpower. Items created by the rings are not indestructible and are only as powerful as the willpower of the Green Lantern creating them. The types of constructs usually reflect the ring wearer's personality.” Perfectly said.

Flight- Enough said.

Time travel- Again, self-explanatory.

Cellular regeneration- “The ring has an ability to heal physical injuries; this seems to be a feature held over from the previous incarnations of the ring. Green Lantern can use the ring to repair injuries in himself or others.”

Detection Abilities- If green lantern can imagine what he will be detecting, he will have the power to detect it.

Translation- Can translate any language. And by anything I mean ANYTHING. Like, dog barks, or super galactic dog barks. a86;

Emergency Beacon: A Green Lantern in distress can use his/her/its power ring as an emergency beacon.

Pretty powerful ring, eh?

Why green lantern has an edge over Silver Surfer:

Green Lantern has the ability to turn into a human. How is this important, you might ask? Well, silver surfer has a soft spot for humans and the: “Surfer values his Earthling friends so dearly.” So all green lantern would have to do is befriend hum, then catch him resting or chilling or something and poof, green lantern would win. Then you might think, well how would green lantern know so much about his opponent? His ring has the ability to be the encyclopedia of all encyclopedias of sorts. He definitely knows about silver surfer.

Thank you,


Debate Round No. 3


Oh boy. This is going to be the best round.

ROUND THREE: PHOENIX (Jean Grey-Summers) VS Wonder Woman (Diana Prince)

"As a founding member of the X-Men, Jean Grey has been fighting for the peaceful coexistence of mutants and humans as Marvel Girl and later Phoenix most of her life. While piloting a spacecraft back to Earth, Jean was saved by the Phoenix Force and placed in a cocoon to heal, while the Phoenix impersonated her. After returning, Jean joined the founding members of X-Men in X-Factor and later rejoined the X-Men. After her alternate timeline daughter Rachel Summers asked her to adopt the name of Phoenix, Jean did and was later merged with the Phoenix Force. After Jean married her long-time love, Cyclops, he later began to have an affair with sex therapist and former villain, Emma Frost. A powerful telepath and telekinetic, when acting as an avatar of the Phoenix Force, Jean can also wield that entity's incredible powers, such as cosmic pyrokinesis, resurrection, and immortality. Her physical body killed by Kuan-Tin Xorn, Jean's connection with the Phoenix Force makes it unlikely that she will ever truly die. She was resurrected by the Phoenix in Phoenix Endsong later transformed into the White Phoenix Of The Crown and went back into the White Hot Room. She has been presumed dead by everyone but is still alive. "


Jean Grey herself does not use any weapons but rather she shares some with the X-Men.

Probably the most important thing that the X-Men share are vehicles. The most well known form of transportation is the Blackbird. The Blackbird is based off a real military jet known as the SR-71 with Shi'ar upgrades. The current Blackbird model is known as the RS-150. The Blackbird uses a cloaking device from the Shi'ar and uses several forms of weaponry like missiles and guns. There are many other forms of transportation that the X-Men have but I am no going to go through all of them

X-Men Blackbird


Oh boy.

I got to admit one thing. In hand-to-hand combat Wonder Woman is clearly superior. I do not doubt that. What I do doubt is that it will help her against Jean Grey.

Jean Grey has been stated to be an Omega Level Mutant. Her powers are extraordinary without help but when she merges with the Phoenix force her power becomes godly. I will first cover her regular abilities. First of all, Jean Grey is both a telepathic and telekinetic.

"Jean is able to read thoughts, project and broadcast her own thoughts, as well as affect the minds of humans and animals with higher order intelligence (such as dolphins, ravens or dogs). The range at which she can perform these feats is greatly increased while she is accessing the Phoenix Force. After her absorption of Psylocke's specialized telepathy, Jean's own telepathic skill and power was increased to a level at which she could create psionic firebirds capable of inflicting mental and physical damage. However this enhanced telepathy came at the temporary cost of her telekinesis."

Her telepathy allows her use many defensive abilities, turn invisible, manipulate minds, initiate mind control and possession, alter personalities, induce paralysis amnesia and sedation, dilate powers and fire psychic bolts.

Think we are done? Guess again!

New X-Men Vol 1 120 Textless


"As the favored and true avatar of the powerful Phoenix Force, Jean may greatly increase her powers by tapping into the life energies of those yet unborn. The Phoenix Force also allows its avatars to manifest additional powers, especially in terms of Jean as its "host, house, and self". Jean Grey is the strongest and complete host of Phoenix Force. They became the White Phoenix Of The Crown."

The most powerful thing that the Phoenix granted Jean was Cosmic Psychokinesis. These flames do not need oxygen to survive. With the fire and her telekinesis she can direct the fire to become more powerful or to burn a specific target. Other powers the Phoenix gives its hosts include disintegration waves where the Phoenix consumes a near infinite number of atoms, control of time allowing the user to change the future for the better, mastery of existence allowing for the user to bring anything into existence and return them to nothingness when their purpose is completed and the control of life and death itself. You hear that? The Phoenix can manipulate death. Jean Grey with the Phoenix could bring death to Wonder Woman with the twitch of finger.

Because the Phoenix and Jean Grey have pretty much become one entity and the Phoenix is immortal that makes Jean Grey immortal. While her physical body might be destroyed Jean Grey can never die.

"Jean and the Phoenix Force are one-and-the-same entity at some fundamental level, and as such Jean can never truly die. Upon the death of her corporeal form, Jean spends time in the The White Hot Room doing 'Phoenix work'. The Phoenix Force can also restore Jean's body to life, although there appears to be some unknown limitation to how quickly it can successfully accomplish this following her death. "

I don't think I need to go on.

Goddess Phoenix I


None. Jean Grey has no other real abilities. She is very intelligent and not that bad in hand-to-hand combat although like I said before Wonder Woman is much better at hand to hand combat.


Also none. Jean Grey is so powerful by herself but when she and the Phoenix merge she is pretty much invincible. I see no way for Wonder Woman to win.

Thanks and good luck!

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I am terribly sorry for the glitch last time, to view the words, just highlight it. Again, very sorry. But anyways, let's do this thing!


Ok here it goes;

"Wonder Women had strength that was comparable to the...Superman."

Wait a tick, say what? Strength like Superman? Now THAT is strong. In case you don't know much about superman, here is a fact you might want to consider:

"Superman's strength....could move entire planets."
Ok, ladida, superman, wait, WHAT? Entire Wonder women has strength comparable to moving freaking PLANETS. Geeeeting Diiiiiizy, thanks to ...Wonder Women!

Other Powers besides freakish strength:

Superhuman Durability- "high resistance to damage and magical attacks...ability to heal at a superhuman rate...considerable resistance to human weaponry's."

Flight- 'Nuff' said.

Ridiculous superhuman speed- "She is able to think, react and move at superhuman speeds. According to flash, she can easily keep up with him"

Reflexes- "Wonder Woman's reflexes are far beyond the limitations of the finest human athletes. She has been able to react to a barrage of gunfire from multiple opponents at once unharmed."

Stamina- "Wonder Woman can last a great deal of time in any fight and with virtually anyone...she doesn't tire out, as her body produces no lactic acids in her muscles."

Dimension Teleportation- "Wonder Woman can literally leave the planet through meditation." Take a lesson from this, kids. Meditate daily, and you will teleport to a different dimension! Nah, just kidding.

Wisdom- "possesses great wisdom and intelligence, though the degree varies from author to author. She is among the smartest and wisest"

Also, she is master at flying planes, Archery, and Swordsmanship.

Why will Wonder Women win? (W's much!)

"Jean's limited power made her vulnerable to a variety of skilled and/or powerful opponents" Aha! I think, just maybe, that Wonder Women, you know being able to lift PLANETS, falls under a "powerfull opponent." Also, " As "Phoenix" her main vulnerability was that if she became emotionally unstable, she would lose control of her powers." Bye bye, telekineses run Jean-Grey, hello, superhuman strentgh!

Thank you,


Debate Round No. 4


HULK SMASH!!!! Alright, now that I have gotten that out of my system, we can begin.

ROUND FIVE: HULK (Robert Bruce Banner) vs SUPERMAN (Kal-El)

" Bruce Banner was a scientist who was working on a gamma bomb when he noticed teenager Rick Jones out on the test range. Although he rushed out into the test site and heroically pushed the boy into the protective trench to save him from the blast, Bruce was exposed to extreme amounts of gamma radiation that altered his DNA structure due to gamma rays and trauma passed down by his Father and caused him to become a giant green (at first grey) monster of incredible power whenever he starts to get angry. With his girlfriend Betty Ross seemingly being to be the only person to calm the Hulk back into Banner and often being pursued by his nemesis Thunderbolt Ross who is also Betty's Father, Bruce is often on the run while trying to find a cure for his problem and keep calm as much as he can while at the same time battling supervillians."


Most of the gadgets if not all of the gadgets mentioned have been designed and used by only Bruce Banner and not the Hulk.

Bruce Banner has designed the following gadgets:

-A mentally controlled operating system.
-Gamma and Old power fueled shields.
-A pocket-sized teleporter
-Scanners that scan everyone within 50 feet of him.
-A suit that allows banner to survive harsh environments
- A taser that runs on old power that is so powerful it is measured on the Richter scale.

Impressive eh? These weapons and tools were designed by a genius. They have worked and have proven that Bruce is not a defenseless nerd contrary to beliefs.


'There ain't many around who can describe what it feels like to get hit by the Hulk. Simple fact bein' there ain't many around who can survive to tell the tale. There ain't no pain at first. It's like he hits ya so damn hard ya actually leave yer own body. It's when ya come back that ya feel the pain. An' ya realize yer goin' toe-to-toe with a walkin' earthquake."


I hope we all know that the Hulk is not always the Hulk. The transition from Banner-To-Hulk is caused by adrenaline. As with all humans our bodies generate adrenaline in times of fear, anger, stress and rage. This is where things start to become abnormal. The adrenaline stimulates the heart which enhances physical abilities for normal humans. But instead of better reflexes and sight Bruce's body triggers a chemical reaction that transforms him into the Hulk that we all know and love. Depending on the amount of adrenaline produced a transformation could last from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. Now, before you type "Attack him before he turns!" That will simply anger Bruce, and I think you all know what happens next.

After the transformation comes the powers. Super-Strength is at the top. Fun fact: The Hulk's strength has no limits. He has no strength class.

" The Hulk possesses the capacity for virtually limitless physical strength, In fact, upon actually measuring his raw potential, the omnipotent Beyonder stated outright that the Hulk's strength is intrinsically limitless, an infinity with no finite element inside. However, each of the primary Hulk's personalities possess a base strength level."

As the Hulk gets angrier his strength grows and grows and grows. As his strength grows so does his capabilities. In the World War Hulk event he took down the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Avengers, Black Bolt, Doctor Strange, Many military vehicles, tanks, planes and tanks, Iron Man, and the Sentry with minimal help. Manhattan also took a beating. I can't really expand any more. The Hulk is the strongest one there is.

The Hulk is much more then green muscles, his durability is incredible.

"This invulnerability extends to the optic system since bullets, grenade shrapnel, Hawkeye's arrows, and even Valkyrie's enchanted blade Dragonfang did not penetrate nor damage it. The Hulk is able to withstand high caliber bullets, powerful energy blasts, pressures extremes, falls from orbital heights, maximized heat without blistering, maximized cold without freezing, and also powerful impacts. The Hulk has withstood several times the impact of ground zero nuclear explosions, the Human Torch's Nova Blast,with a maximum temperature of one million degrees Fahrenheit, and the crushing pressures of 100Gs without suffering any damage or harm. In fact, when the Maestro's Dog O' War, a robot claimed to be able to crush adamantium in its jaws in 7.3 seconds, had the Hulk's exposed neck in its jaws, it was unable to even lacerate his skin before being ripped apart.The Hulk was also capable to withstand a planet-devastating impact,a planet-shattering impact at point blank range."

How about that. The Hulk is really strong and really tough. However if the Hulk is hurt he has a healing factor that will allow him to recover very quickly from many forms of attacks. Along with his strength his healing factor increases in speed and efficiency with anger, making his healing factor pretty much incalculable. He is also immune to all earth diseases.

" For all intents and purposes the Hulk lives indefinitely. Because of his healing factor that regenerates his cells, and because of the properties of gamma energy that empowers him, Hulk has an extended lifespan. A possible future persona, the Maestro, was in his physical prime despite being more than one hundred years old.[261] In another alternate future it is implied that the Hulk's body effectively lasts forever."

There you have it. Super strength, super durability and possible immortality? I wish there was more! But there is more.

Other powers include super speed where he can "run like a tornado" , super stamina, and gamma energy manipulation. There. Wow, I still have a lot to write.


Well, there are many forms of the Hulk so why not cover them all?

Savage Hulk form- Ah, the Hulk we all know and love. The most common Hulk who is incredibly strong but has the mental capacity of a five year old. He claims to want to be left alone but in reality he just can't understand why everyone is attacking him.

Grey Hulk- The original Hulk. Unlike his savage side he is quite intelligent but not nearly as strong. However this gives him an advantage as this Hulk is very cunning and can formulate a strategy that is not just "Smashing". This Hulk seems to enjoy suits and other things that Savage would not care about.

Gravage Hulk- Now this is a Hulk I would not want to face. The smashing of savage, the genius of Grey. These two mixed together are a combo that few can stop, and for good reason. Just imagine, a Hulk that smashes your teeth straight out of your mouth yet can beat you at chess with his eyes closed!

The Green Scar- This is where things get ugly for superman. Imagine this. You are the Gravage Hulk and you just realized that you are trapped in a space shuttle. A video is playing with four of your friends explaining why they had to exile you. You have saved the puny humans many times and this is how you get rewarded? With exile. Would you feel betrayed? Angry? Hurt? Seeking for revenge? That is what makes the Green Scar so deadly. Now think about this. You have just overthrown the tyrannical Red King of Sakaar and now you are being crowned as king. How would you celebrate your first day? Play some games? Listen to music? Go for a walk? The Hulk spent seven hours sitting on his throne and allowing himself to be eaten by the poor and hungry spikes. SEVEN HOURS. He just sat there getting having his flesh consumed. The durability that comes with the anger sure helps. The planet you united and ruled just got flattened by an explosion? Angrier. Your friend just revealed his betrayal? Boiling point. You are attacked even more? World wide earthquake. This is truly the ultimate hulk and I would love to see Superman try to contend with such incalculable rage.

Wow. What a debate. Thank you so much for accepting.

World War Hulk issues 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.
Incredible Hulk volume 2 issues 92 to 105 aka Planet Hulk series



Ladies, gents, I welcome you too see the best super hero there ever was- SUPERMAN

In advance, warning, this is quite short because I am currently quite bus so I could only take like 30 mins!

Here we go:

Superman is spectacular in so many ways that it is hard to say, but let's start with the crazy amount of strength. "Superman currently possessing enough strength to hurl mountains, withstand nuclear blasts with ease, fly into the sun unharmed, and survive in the vacuum of outer space without oxygen."

Holy Cow! Move a mountain? Easy. Nuke's? A minor paper cut! The sun? AC! A vacuum? Who cares? Superman is just so freakishly strong that it defies imagination. Other people say Superman can even lift planets! Watch out, Earth!

Flying Ability- "Faster than a speeding bullet." "Superman could fly to other worlds and galaxies and even across universes with relative ease." HULK SMAS_ wait, where did Superman go? Dang it! MARS! Superman is a living jet, flying at incredible speeds that are hard to fathom.

Other- "vision powers (including x-ray, heat-emitting, telescopic, infra-red, and microscopic vision), super-hearing, super-intelligence, and super-breath, which enables him to blow out air at freezing temperatures, as well as exert the propulsive force of high-speed winds"

Why he would beat Hulk- "he can be hurt or even killed by cosmic entities or individuals with similar extraordinary level of power" Yep, I think superman is easily stronger than Hulk, thus being able to kill him.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by DarthKirones 2 years ago
Hey. No need to apologize. You posted something, It might have been small but it's SOMETHING!
Posted by DarthKirones 2 years ago
No need to. Just highlight the text
Posted by jacobie1121 2 years ago
il post it the right way next round
Posted by jacobie1121 2 years ago
aw crap the post came out all wrong
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Vote Placed by emmalynn 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Im all for Marvel
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct, S&G, and sourcing were fine, though Con had some weird formatting issues for his pictures. Fundamentally, this debate seems pretty subjective and, despite the criminal lack of a Flash pairing in the initial setup from Pro, I still found Con's heroes and their defense more compelling. Great job from both sides though! As always, happy to clarify this RFD.