The Instigator
MiaJones
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The Contender
Blade-of-Truth
Con (against)
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28 Points

The illuminate is real and they are trying to minipulate us.

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Blade-of-Truth
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/8/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 590 times Debate No: 66595
Debate Rounds (5)
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MiaJones

Pro

I believe that the illuminate is real and they are trying to manipulate us.
Blade-of-Truth

Con

I want to thank Pro for instigating this thought-provoking debate.

I accept the debate, and will now return the floor to Pro for opening arguments.
Debate Round No. 1
MiaJones

Pro

MiaJones forfeited this round.
Blade-of-Truth

Con

My opponent has forfeited round 2.

I will extend the opportunity, once more, for Pro to begin with opening arguments.

Thank you.
Debate Round No. 2
MiaJones

Pro

MiaJones forfeited this round.
Blade-of-Truth

Con

Okay, I really hope my opponent doesn't FF this entire debate. This is actually a topic I'd love to fully delve into.

Since this is a 5 round debate, I'll extend the opportunity, once more, for Pro to begin.

If Pro FF's the next round, I will present my arguments with the aim of negating the resolution.

Thank you.
Debate Round No. 3
MiaJones

Pro

MiaJones forfeited this round.
Blade-of-Truth

Con

Well, this is rather annoying. I can see on Pro's profile that she was online yesterday, but I suppose there is nothing I can do about it.

Pro needed to prove that the Illuminati was real to uphold the burden of proof required to affirm this resolution.

Since Pro hasn't presented any arguments, there is nothing for me to rebut.

Due to this, I will present my own arguments negating the resolution.

I. Foundation and Ban of the Bavarian Illuminati

There is alot of hogwash surrounding the Illuminati and whether it is playing a secret hand in the shaping of our world. As an active Freemason though, I can assure you that there is no such thing as the Illuminati in our modern world. Instead, what we are seeing is a collection of powerful individuals influencing the modern laws and world utilizing their influence and control. Some could view the owners of the news stations as members of the illuminati, but in reality they are nothing more than rich individuals who have the power to influence. The reason why the term illuminati is so convenient is because in its modern context it seems to cover exactly what these people are doing, but in reality they are not part of an Illuminati. The convenience of the term has misguided the people who believe such things.

The association of which I have been speaking, is the order of Illuminati, founded in 1775, by Dr. Adam Weishaupt, professor of Canon law in the university of Ingolstadt, and abolished in 1786 by the Elector of Bavaria. The professed goal of the Bavarian Illuminati was to teach people to be happy by encouraging them to be good - by illuminating the mind and freeing it from prejudice and superstition. Thus, even the context of the modern illuminati has no grounds to stand upon when compared to the original Bavarian illuminati. [1]

There have been many claims that the Illuminati survived underground, but the burden to prove that falls on Pro, not myself.

[1] http://www.bavarianilluminati.com...

II. Pro has presented nothing to affirm the resolution yet

Normally, this is where I'd present rebuttals against the claims presented by Pro. Unfortunately, Pro has done nothing of the sort. I would like to ask the audience to please take into consideration the multiple forfeits of Pro once this debate enters the voting period.

In closing,

I've presented an accurate history regarding the original Bavarian Illuminati, as well as show the faults in associating the modern conception of the illuminati with the original. I now return the floor to Pro.

Thank you
Debate Round No. 4
MiaJones

Pro

MiaJones forfeited this round.
Blade-of-Truth

Con

Pro has fully forfeited this entire debate.

Please vote Con.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Conspiracy_Solver 1 year ago
Conspiracy_Solver
two debates lol :)
Posted by 9spaceking 1 year ago
9spaceking
hahaha, Bladey kills another guy!
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
illuminati=true light
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Vote Placed by BLAHthedebator 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct: con. Pro forfeited all rounds. S&G: con. Pro spelt illuminati wrong. Arguments: con. Only he made arguments. Sources: con. Only he used sources.