The Instigator
Cherymenthol
Pro (for)
Losing
10 Points
The Contender
omelet
Con (against)
Winning
43 Points

The individual(s) who have voted for my opponent ought not to have.

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omelet
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/12/2009 Category: Politics
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,681 times Debate No: 10435
Debate Rounds (2)
Comments (11)
Votes (10)

 

Cherymenthol

Pro

The following debate: http://www.Debate.org...

My opponent and I are tied (as of the posting of this round) And due to the fact that he not only forfeited one but two rounds, never refuted a single argument, Never gave the courtsey to comment, or anything of the sort. Their is no reason he should have the amount of votes he currently has.

Thank you.
omelet

Con

1. beastboy838 should have voted for himself.
By voting for himself, he would be making it slightly more likely that he would win or tie that debate rather than lose.

2. I should have voted for beastboy838.
I have, and I should have, since it gives me a better chance to win this debate due to having an extra contention.

3. First two vote categories.
Those who agreed with beastboy838 before or after the debate should have voted for him in those categories if they wished to be honest.
Debate Round No. 1
Cherymenthol

Pro

Their is a difference between being winning and being right, as so many debates on this website can tell us. This is also why I am not talking about me winning rather the morality of the votes (use of ought).

1.
there are multiple opponents, not addressed this. We are debating on the morality of the decisions and because they have not conformed to the conduct of rightness, making the fair and right decision. he should have received no votes.

2.
Look to intro

Extend all points from PRO
omelet

Con

My opponent has not argued against my #3 point. While votes in the first two categories are not about who wins, they are still votes, and thus I have negated the resolution.

My opponent has given no moral standard to base his claims on, and he has not defined ought in any specific sense. By some moral systems, it is moral to act selfishly and immoral to act unselfishly. Even ignoring #3, my opponent has failed to show that either beastboy838 or myself ought not have voted for beastboy838.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by Cherymenthol 7 years ago
Cherymenthol
I agree :(
Posted by omelet 7 years ago
omelet
I didn't even read it, but I gave you conduct and arguments because your opponent forfeited.

The problem is that debates that have a forfeit aren't shown on the front page when they end, so you're unlikely to get many people reading the debate and voting. He has 7 points probably because he voted for himself in all categories, which is 7 points total.
Posted by Cherymenthol 7 years ago
Cherymenthol
http://www.Debate.org...

What about this debate? I'm not going to start another to debate but please help me out here read and give feedback.
Posted by omelet 7 years ago
omelet
Votes
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Agree before/after: CON/CON
Conduct: TIE
Spelling: CON
Arguments: CON
Sources: TIE

RFD
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Neither participant had particularly bad conduct or used any scholarly sources to back up claims.

PRO had several spelling and grammar mistakes, which is significant for the length of the debate.

PRO failed to show why no one should have voted for his opponent on the "who did you agree with before the debate" and "who did you agree with after the debate" categories, even by his implied standard of honesty. That was enough to negate the resolution.
Posted by studentathletechristian8 7 years ago
studentathletechristian8
Everything but Sources to Con
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
Arguments to CON, as PRO failed to establish any moral guideline, and did not refute #3.
Posted by Cherymenthol 7 years ago
Cherymenthol
RFDs Please... if possible.
Posted by omelet 7 years ago
omelet
wjm: Actually, we're both his opponent. While he didn't specify which of us he was referring to in the resolution, and perhaps without clarification it would have made sense to assume he meant me, he did clarify which opponent he was talking about.
Posted by omelet 7 years ago
omelet
Had a fourth contention, but no room to write it. Oh well.
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
Why did you reference this debate? Are you trying to trick someone into repeatedly clicking that link, then checking the Comments, then clicking the link, and so on?
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