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Fingohluuptee
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The meaning of life is not answerable until one understands the meaning of death.

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Started: 1/13/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Fingohluuptee

Pro

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Debatingkid

Con

According to ancient Indian texts the meaning of death could be understood by understanding the meaning of life and that could only be understood by learning about truth

so the meaning of life is answerable if we learn about truth
Debate Round No. 1
Fingohluuptee

Pro

According to ancient Indians, you can cure cancer by praying to Shiva; I'm not entirely sure that they are a reliable source.

As for the actual logic, Con is using, it makes absolutely no sense for the Con side. Con is essentially stating that We must obtain truth in order to decipher the meaning of life. I can see no plausible way to fully understand truth without also knowing the meaning of death. Furthermore, one cannot coherently from a meaning of life until they understand why the absence of it was necessary both before and after it. If this wasn't true, than one could understand the meaning and entirety of a NASA space shuttle without understanding the entire need for it in the first place due to the lack of it there was before and perhaps one day will be.

In the simplest of terms, you cannot understand the meaning of something without knowing firstly why it existed in the first place and secondly why it hasn't yet ceased to exist. In order to determine these two variables, one must fully understand reality minus the given 'thing'. You cannot understand the meaning of a spanner without first understanding how hard and brutal it is to tighten a bolt without one and to also understand that there doesn't seem to be an affordable alternative for many people so the spanner becomes the option. Similarly, you cannot understand life without first seeing the issue with a universe full of death and the meaning of that. Death is simply life diminishing and returning to the nothingness it once was before.

Some may argue that we live eternally as a soul and 'death' is actually an illusion of the physical realm but even if it is an illusions, we'd first have to fully understand what death is and its meaning before knowing what life means. In actual fact, there is not a single religion on Earth that has ever answered the meaning of life without first answering the meaning of death and analyzing the nature of what death really is. The reason you find meaning of life in Christianity and Islam is to enter the kingdom of Heaven and avoid the depths of Hell. The reason you find meaning of life in Hinduism is to be reborn sexier and richer than you are now thanks to the sacrifices that you made while in this body and life. I could go on but I think you get the point about religions.

Now I am not at all stating that religions are the only attempt mankind has had at answering the meaning of life. No, rather to the contrary religions tend to be brainwashing schemes designed to stop one questioning and encourage juvenile satisfaction with substandard reasoning. Some go more extreme than others, such as Scientology and the national religion of North Korea which pretends to be atheist but actually worships the 'supreme leader' as a God of some sort.

The non-religious answers to a 'meaning of life' always end up being malformations of the conclusion that there is not one to be found universally. In other words, any non-religious meaning of life (such as 'to be happy' or 'to care for others') often requisites the forms of life to firstly feel emotions and secondly have human-like interactions whereby care, love, happiness and forgiveness are even possible avenues of thought to pursue. What the meaning of life is to a human being is rather irrelevant if something just as alive as a human being, such as a snake, an ant or a bacterium cannot be found to remotely match this meaning of life. So, in actuality, since all non-religious philosophers admit that they do not truly know what the nature of death is, let alone the entire meaning of it, it's safe to say that they all have come to the conclusion that finding the meaning of life must therefore be impossible if one is seeking a meaning that can be applied to life itself rather than specific forms and embodiments of it.

In conclusion, the only way to ever pursue the answer to the 'meaning of life' question that has been bogging humanity's mind for millennia would be to first fully understand what death is and rational behind reality's discontent with being entirely dead in the first place.
Debatingkid

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
Fingohluuptee

Pro

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Con

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Debate Round No. 3
Fingohluuptee

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
Fingohluuptee

Pro

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Debatingkid

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Debate Round No. 5
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