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Tim_Spin
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The minimum wage ought to be abolished in the U.S.

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Tim_Spin
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/3/2011 Category: Economics
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Tim_Spin

Pro

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3. Burden of proof will be shared.

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5. R1 is for acceptance and clarifications. Argumentation begins in R2.

Definitions

Minimum wage- The smallest hourly wage that an employee may be paid as mandated by federal law.

Abolished- Ended, stopped.

Ought- In this case, 'ought' will mean what would generally cause the more favorable economic results to the general population.
TheHost

Con

I accept this debate on the grounds that it is very interesting.
Debate Round No. 1
Tim_Spin

Pro

Contention- Having a minimum wage causes unemployment and/or outsourcing.

When a government institutes a minimum wage, it is necessarily going to overvalue some workers. Let's say the federally mandated minimum wage is $4.00 per hour. As long as not every single employee in said government's jurisdiction is worth more(More, not the same because an employee who is paid the exact same wage that they make their employer defeats the purpose of hiring to a lesser degree of losing the employer money.) than $4.00 per hour, the minimum wage law will create unneeded unemployment. Some workers are simply not as valuable as the minimum wage would dictate and thus implementation of a minimum wage gives employers an incentive not to hire as many employees so as to not lose money.

Besides unemployment, a minimum wage can also give business' incentive to outsource jobs to workers in countries where there is either not a minimum wage or the minimum wage is lower. The reasoning is the same. When workers are valued by either the market or the employer at a lower value than the mandated minimum wage, it creates a disincentive to employ in that area. The more cost-effective option other than simply not hiring as many employees is to hire employees from somewhere else. To force employers into over valuing their employees simply means that less people living in the territory in which the mandate takes place will be employed.

I feel as though this is enough of a brief outline of the basic case against a federally mandated minimum wage. I will wait to see my opponent's own case and specific objections to decide which points to further explain. But for now I pass the debate back to my opponent.


TheHost

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
Tim_Spin

Pro

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TheHost

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Debate Round No. 3
Tim_Spin

Pro

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TheHost

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Debate Round No. 4
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Reasons for voting decision: Con forfeits the debate.