The only things with intrinsic value in this world are pleasure and pain.
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The core intrinsic values of anything, whether in physics or in morality is 'positive' and 'negative'. Unlike pleasure and pain, positivity and negativity can only ever be defined as an absence or opposition of the other.
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In any situation, whether it be rape, murder, child abuse or theft someone or a group of people benefit from it and a person or group get hurt by it.
Hard work is good for society but bad for the individual who is working harder than the rest due to stress and exhaustion.
To help someone, in and of itself, is a concept of causing pain to the self and pleasure to the other. To be selfish is the opposite.
Ultimately there is no pain or pleasure correlation to morality, rather the positivity or negativity of the consequences of each action weighed against the opposite form of consequences.
All thieves and the people their stolen goods help to get wealthy get immense pleasure from it. It's all relative.
Why is helping others 'good' if it hurts you? Should you give all your money to others the moment you get it? Communism is viewed as evil by most societies.
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