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The pen is mightier than the sword.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/1/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Voting Period
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one-2-won

Pro

I'll allow my opponent to go first.
rageAgainstTheDebate

Con

I negate the resolution: The pen is mightier than the sword. Intelligent humans probably would agree that if you took into perspective what written or spoken insult is, that is quite pathetic compared to the sword. Any intelligent human would also realize that others opinions really shouldn't affect them if they are of stable mind and personality. Any insult spoken or written is just a product of human behavior developed over centuries. For instance the middle finger was invented during the Hundred Years War. When a French bowman was captured by the British, they would cut off his middle finger, so that even if he did escape, he could not use a bow anymore. When French bowman escaped with there fingers intact, they would flick the British off in a "you didn't get my finger" retaliation. Somehow, today's society converted this into the phrase "f*** off". This is just one example of how insults communicated in a non-physical manner are just misinterpreted trinkets of history. Insults come and go as well, almost in a cyclic process, deeming them inconstant. This is opposed to physical abuse or contact as a result of anger, which is evident all over the animal kingdom, including human society. "The sword" has always been apart of history. It is clearly more effective in warfare, as demonstrated with Korea's nuclear weapon stockpiling, the Iraq war, and the war in Palestine. You don't see soldiers screaming "your mom" at the enemy do you?
I therefore continue to negate the resolution because of "the pen's" inconstancy, inertness, and pathetic stature when compare to the sword.
VOTE CON.
Debate Round No. 1
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Pro

I disagree. The written or spoken insult is not pathetic compared to the sword. Think of the power of the media. How "gossip," and lies, or indeed the truth can destroy a person's reputation. Something many people would consider to be of the highest importance. The Pen is everything BUT pathetic. Without the pen society would be nothing that it is today. The Laws and theories of scientists such as Newton and Darwin would not exist. Our outlook and knowledge on life, would be entirely different and the work of other scientists, could not have evolved or advanced in the way it has, if it all, without the influence of it's predecessors and the pen. Furthermore, Religion would be entirely different without the Bible, the Qur'an, the Torah or any other holy book you care to name. How different would the lives of millions of religious people be today, without the pen.

It is often said, that the root of all wars, is religious. In which case, if our view of religion was altered, as indeed it would be without the religious texts, then perhaps war would not ensue. Then, there would be no need for swords to be drawn. In this way, the pen begins war and provides an opportunity for the use of the sword. Likewise, it ends war, in the form of treaties and so removes the opportunity for the use of the sword. In this sense, the pen has the ultimate power over the sword, dictating it's use.

Surely "Mein Kampf" the book Hitler wrote whilst in prison, is indicative of the pen's power. He managed to change the mindsets of millions. Something a sword could not do.

How do we know all of this?! How was it that you were able to recount the story of how the middle finger was invented during the hundred year war? How was it that you were able tell of the Iraq war, Korea's nuclear weapon stockpiling and of the war in Palestine?! I presume it was because you have read of this or been taught this? In this way you have lost your ignorance through the written word. How was it that you were even able to put forward your argument? Through the pen. It is the pen, that enables a city, a country, a generation, a world to access knowledge that would not be otherwise available to them. A sword does not reap such benefits.

Whilst it is the sword that may drive a person to their grave. It is the pen, that enables them to live on, through statistics and history. Even the pen, has the power to defeat death a sword does not.

VOTE PRO.
rageAgainstTheDebate

Con

I thought this debate was about insults vs. physical abuse.... I give my opponent the win based on the premise of such a clever and vague resolution.
Debate Round No. 2
one-2-won

Pro

Okay, thank you. I apologise for not making that clearer from the outset and look forward to debating again with you in the future! Thank you.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by wjmelements 5 years ago
wjmelements
Semantics fail... CON should have gone along with it.
Posted by wpfairbanks 5 years ago
wpfairbanks
The sword is mightier than the pen, unless the pen is used as a sword
Posted by NOK_Domination 5 years ago
NOK_Domination
sean connery
Posted by vorxxox 5 years ago
vorxxox
A classic debate, eh?

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