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The portrayal of high profile females in the media goes against femininity

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/1/2015 Category: Society
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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manpower2

Pro

It's all in the title- I am arguing that the portrayal of high profile females (can be celebrities or fictional characters such as in video games) in the media (newspapers, social media etc) ruins the image of femininity (the belief that ultimately, both sexes should be equal) in the public mind

This basically means anything you want it to. Eg. Cosmetic surgery ruins the image of femininity
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Female video game characters ruin the image of femininity etc.

1st round is simply acceptance
All other rounds are anything
Keep it fairly clean

Good luck :)
masterdrave

Con

Yes, I completely agree, men are totally discriminated against. Women are given way too much power in this sense you are speaking of. It totally destroys the feminine image. They need to be feeble, weak, stay at home isolates.
Debate Round No. 1
manpower2

Pro

Many high profile females in the media have had liposuction, breast implants, nose jobs, Botox, face lifts, tummy tucks, and chemical peeling of the skin. For someone who is an idol to thousands, maybe even millions of people, portraying these hyper-sexualised looks as 'natural beauty' fools innocent teenagers and adults into thinking that that is what society deems acceptable, that that is what they need to look like without being judged, and that that is what they need to achieve in life.

These absurd social expectations set out by high profile females are naturally unachievable and can only be gained by extensive and regular visits to a cosmetic surgeon, which the vast majority of our population either don't have easy access to, or don't have the money to undergo such expensive procedures. Even if they did have the money, why should girls spend their life committing themselves to a fake body image, just to be noticed by the other sex as a purely physical attraction? These pictures in the papers, on social media, and on television are saying to women all around the world: "if you don't have this body, then you are not an Ideal woman and you will not be noticed or appreciated."

An example is female celebrities attending awards ceremonies 'wear' minuscule pieces of paper-thin fabric barely covering their reproductive organs, and the men turn up in suits and tuxedoes with no more then their head exposed. This just shows how women celebrities go out of their way, purely to grab the attention of the male audience and this behaviour, from such idols, teaches abhorrent principles to our younger generation; principles that say women have to live their lives just to please men.

These unattainable body images being force fed to our population results in women never happy with their features, teenager girls purposely throwing their food up to achieve a stick thin body, verging on a medical emergency, women starving themselves because they want to lose weight as fast as possible, girls uncontrollably weeping in the school toilets worrying that they're not enough to be accepted in this world, countless numbers of nervous breakdowns in the corridors because they will never be able to gain the 'perfect' body that all of society seeks for, but only ever finds in millionaire celebrities and video games.

Talking of video games, the extreme majority of female video game characters have hyper sexualised features: women with impossible curves, back-breaking breasts, and buttocks about to burst, strut around their virtual world, flaunting their enlarged eyes and freakishly large lips. These types of games, usually played by males, teaches them that all women should look as good as this and that if they don't look like that then they're below average. Games like grand theft auto also encourage this type of behaviour. With the freedom to do virtually anything, you can have intercourse with a woman and then brutally murder her afterwards, all with no punishment! This completely, and wrongly objectifies women and portrays them as people only to be appreciated by their physical appearance and to be treated however men feel like treating them.

You talked about women staying at home, acting feeble, and being weak, but why should they be isolated, why should they be submissive, and ultimately, why should their whole life rotate around men?
masterdrave

Con

masterdrave forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
manpower2

Pro

Don't know if the contender forgot or wasn't arguing
masterdrave

Con

masterdrave forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
manpower2

Pro

Not really sure what to do now? Vote for me?
masterdrave

Con

masterdrave forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by manpower2 1 year ago
manpower2
Biologically, yes women have a worse muscle to fat ratio in their body, however they do not send physically untrained soldiers into battle, just like they would not send physically untrained women into combat. So with the correct training, as with an man as well, women are capable of that, and can do it if they so wish. Men don't just sign up to the army and get put into battle straightaway, and it's the same with women.

In reference to your last point, not all women are girly, and not all of them want to be girly, just as not all guys are the stereotypical 'manly' and some don't want to be.
Posted by HarrisonJHamilton 1 year ago
HarrisonJHamilton
Because women are physically inferior to men. It's not a bad thing, it's a wonderful thing actually. A woman cannot carry a fallen soldier on their back while dodging bullets on a battlefield. She would only cause more harm to her fellow soldiers.

To put it simply, women are meant to be girly. What's so wrong with that?
Posted by manpower2 1 year ago
manpower2
That is a very noble example indeed, and I admire you for that, however if a woman wants to put herself in that sort of danger because she has a skill on the battlefield and just wants to do it, then I believe it is perfectly alright for her to do that, and well, why shouldn't she?
Posted by HarrisonJHamilton 1 year ago
HarrisonJHamilton
Oh idk...like fight wars? The battlefield is no place for a woman. I say that because I hold women in a high regard. As a man it is my duty to take care of a woman, protect her from danger....
Posted by manpower2 1 year ago
manpower2
@HarrisonJHamilton I agree with you on the basis that some females ruin femininity, like celebrities that have cosmetic surgery and deny it, leading women and men to believe that is what a woman should look like. However, I don't agree that feminism has worsened women's situation at all. Women are now allowed out of the house to work, men and women's wages are becoming increasingly equal, sexual abuse of women has been called out, and countless numbers of females have spoken out about it, they made equal educational rights and possibilities in some countries, and there is so much else feminism has moved the world on.

This chivalry you talk about, is it not still possible to be corteous and well mannered to women if they have equal rights?

Finally, could you please give some examples as to what men can do that women can't? (Other than biological facts and any other stupid responses)
Posted by HarrisonJHamilton 1 year ago
HarrisonJHamilton
I believe we are not equal at all. Men can do things women just cannot do and vice versa. The "women equality" movement destroyed chivalry in today's culture. Women are treated worse by men now then they ever were before the "women equality" movement.

So yes I agree feminism is dying, but it's being killed by females, not the media or anyone else.
Posted by Bennett91 1 year ago
Bennett91
Yea really, what about their portrayal and in what way are they being portrayed? Also define high profile and femininity.
Posted by Lee001 1 year ago
Lee001
You should define better what you are arguing.
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Vote Placed by Daktoria 1 year ago
Daktoria
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro wasn't being chauvinist and Con was a liar. Pro's point was to advocate populist egalitarianism. Con was an elitist.