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# The pyramids are a product of intelligent design

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Tidus
 Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point Started: 1/4/2012 Category: Society Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period Viewed: 3,408 times Debate No: 20211
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Posted by RoyLatham 5 years ago
In the comments I often bring up issues that did not arise in the debate, but I don't use those issues as reasons for voting on the debate. My main purpose is for people interested in the subject to better understand it. Some people may look up the debate for reference, and they would be especially interested in what was missed. In this debate, the fact that pyramids are designed with internal structure is relevant to understanding why they could not be natural but it didn't enter into the debate and I didn't use it in evaluating the debate.

There was no evidence offered in the debate that "pyramids" on Mars were comparable to the ones in Egypt. The forms are not remotely similar and were not claimed to be.

There is something called "The Devil's Post Pile" that looks man made (or devil man), but is actually natural. It's a bunch of nearly identical hexagonal stone posts packed together. Again, the theory of how it occurred naturally distinguishes it as natural.

In judging debates there is a question of how much knowledge a judge should bring to the debate. Suppose the resolution is "X is true." Pro offers A, B, and C as proof of X. Suppose A and B turn out to be incorrect proofs, but C is a correct proof and I happen to know it. Con denies all the proof, saying "that doesn't prove it." Pro probably doesn't know that A and B are wrong and C is right. So who wins the debate? I say Pro wins, because he cited the correct proof even if he didn't know what was correct and what was incorrect. My view on that situation is controversial.
Posted by Illegalcombatant 5 years ago
I meet your satire and raise you a God of the gaps.

So we know the pyramids were intelligent designed but not by those primitive unreliable Egyptians ? Well it must be God, cause if we don't know why something exists it must be God.

God created the pyramids.
Posted by Gileandos 5 years ago
@Roy,
I believe Tidus put forward a great case for the natural generation of the pyramids. He cited the Pyramids on Mars and all that its generation entails.

It went largely unrefuted by the opponent.
Posted by dipnt 5 years ago
Tidus did an incredible parody of the unscientific, nonsense arguments of evolutionists against intelligent design. A powerful presentation.
Posted by Gileandos 5 years ago
I find it amusing that an atheist would not find a limited deduction argument based on negative premises against intelligent design valid.

Perhaps it will cause some soul searching on what is valid and rational.
Posted by Chrysippus 5 years ago
Royal, Roy isn't votebombing. Look at his RFD:

"A ridiculous debate. Con needed to show a plausible mechanism by which pyramids could have evolved naturally, and he did not even attempt to do so. Is this intended to be a poll on Creationism? I don't get it. Wasting readers time with a non-debate is a conduct violation."

Now, I don't agree with his evaluation, but that's not the point. He does not think Con fulfilled his burden of proof, and he thinks that making a parody debate is bad form. Complete explanation of his vote. He did not vote on his views of the pyramids, he didn't make any arguments for the debates; his was a perfectly fair vote.

In the comments, Roy usually brings up related topics; things that could have been discussed in the debate, but weren't. Oftentimes, his comments are the only redeeming factor to a "debate" where the opponents rehash tired arguments without adding a morsel of original thinking. He isn't adding arguments to be voted on; he is bringing up things to be thought about.

Roy isn't a votebomber. I may not agree with him on a lot of things, but he is fair.
Posted by royalpaladin 5 years ago
See, RoyLatham did it AGAIN. Please call him a votebomber, Chrysippus.
Posted by debateme 5 years ago
It is clear that the pyramids were made by stacking blocks on top of each other. Just look at this picture: