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The story of Jesus is not derived from the pagan myth of Horus

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Wandile
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/4/2012 Category: Religion
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Wandile

Pro

I wish to debate any opponent that is quite keen on discussing this topic. I hope I may find a worthy opponent for this debate.

I hold the position that the Biblical story of Jesus of Nazareth is not a fabrication of the pagan myth of Horus , the ancient egyptian sun god.

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(1) BOP is shared.
(2) All sources should be referenced.
(3) Round 1 is for acceptance and amendments to rules only.
(4) Rounds 2-4 are opening arguments and rebuttal rounds.
(5) No slanderous or derogatory language, or Unacceptable conduct will be allowed.
(6) Plagiarism is not permitted and will result in automatic defeat.

Good luck to my opponent and can't wait to get this started.
BestDebaterEver

Con

it obviously is... i'm jesus, you have no proof that i am not jesus
therefore i know my story is derived from the pagan myth of Horus
u lose
Debate Round No. 1
Wandile

Pro

Well your argument falls short on the fact that Jesus of Nazareth lived in the 1st century AD. He was a carpenter and a preacher. He was of jewish descent and a direct descendant of King David the great of Israel.

Jesus never spoke english (it never existed at the time).Further he was of Israelite nationality and was born in Bethlehem around 7-3 BC. He died around 32-35 AD. For you to be him you have to prove that we are living in that time period and explain how english is spoken in this particular time period even though language is only supposed to be spoken a number of centuries later.

You cannot possibly be Jesus of Nazareth from the bible because you exist approximately 2000 years after his actual existence. Secondly the bible documented his life loooong before you were even born. To be Jesus from the bible you have to fulfill all the above criteria which you clearly don't.

Hence since you are not Jesus of Nazareth, your claims become useless. Sorry buddy :)

Even if you are Jesus, you still haven't proven how your case could be true. The only argument you have provided is based on the circular reasoning fallacy.

I'm really baffled as to what you could possibly get from destroying a potentially titanic debate.

References :

http://www.en.m.wikipedia.org...

http://www.carm.org...
BestDebaterEver

Con

BestDebaterEver forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Wandile

Pro

This guy terminated his account... Arguments forwarded
BestDebaterEver

Con

BestDebaterEver forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
Wandile

Pro

This guy's account is terminated.
BestDebaterEver

Con

BestDebaterEver forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Buckethead31594 5 years ago
Buckethead31594
It looks like Con didn't live up to his name...
Posted by ReformedArsenal 5 years ago
ReformedArsenal
The funniest thing is that this guy actually defeated himself with his argument. If he WAS Jesus then it is clear that Jesus was a real being and not based on Horus.
Posted by Wandile 5 years ago
Wandile
Joseph undertook Jesus as his legal son. It's funny how modern jews have a problem with Jesus' decendency yet in the time of Jesus, the jews often called him Son of David. Instances are even recorded in the gospels. In fact, the Jewish population on Palm Sunday, in the holy city of Jerusalem, hailed Jesus as 'Son of David' and said 'Hosanna'.

"The crowds that went ahead of him and those that followed shouted,

'Hosanna to the Son of David!
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!
Hosanna in the highest!""
(Matthew 21:9)

Do you want to debate this? (It would be fun)
Posted by Mr.Infidel 5 years ago
Mr.Infidel
"He was of jewish descent and a direct descendant of King David the great of Israel."

Pro, while I agree with you, i disagree with you on this part. If Jesus was born of a virgin, he can have no legal lineage because lineage comes through the father. Therefore, he was NOT a descendant of King David the great of Israel."
Posted by imabench 5 years ago
imabench
his account was closed so have fun with this easy win
Posted by Wandile 5 years ago
Wandile
The term 'pagan' was coined by the Judeo-Christian faith. The word 'pagan' is a translation of it's hebrew counterpart. (IDK what the hebrew word for pagan is). A Pagan religion essentially is any other religion that is not Christianity or Judaism.

Pagan :

1. Heathen. 2. especially : a follower of a polytheistic religion (e.g. Ancient Roman religion)
http://www.merriam-webster.com...
Posted by MasterKage 5 years ago
MasterKage
Interesting. I've never known Horus to be a pagan god. Interesting.
Posted by Wandile 5 years ago
Wandile
Both
Posted by MasterKage 5 years ago
MasterKage
@Wandile

Generally speaking isn't Horus an egypatian god, not a pagan god?
Posted by MasterKage 5 years ago
MasterKage
Pro, sorry for BDE wasting a debate. I'll take you up on this after you destroy this guy.
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Vote Placed by Mr.Infidel 5 years ago
Mr.Infidel
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