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MewxVenus
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SniperJake94
Con (against)
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7 Points

"There are no unlucky people, just unhappy people"

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MewxVenus
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/31/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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MewxVenus

Pro

Hey there. This is a quote from my friend Robby, and personally, although we rarely agree on anything anymore, I agree with this.

I'm looking for a fun, friendly, and productive debate. Let the games begin!

First:

Because if someone's life sucks, but they are utterly happy with it, then they don't realize they are unlucky. In fact, they feel they are lucky because they are satisfied with life.

Second:

Because if someone has a good life but isn't pleased with it then they view themselves as "unlucky" because they are discontent.

Third:

Because luck is subjective depending on your outlook. So one's contentment with life could be considered a measure of how lucky they find themselves.
SniperJake94

Con

I stand in negation of the resolution: There are no unlucky people, just unhappy people.

Observation of the resolution: I stand saying that there are unlucky people in this world. Unlucky people are unfortunate people. Unhappy people are people who have been spoiled and lost their fortune.

There is no fair ground in this resolution so whoever can prove the quote as true or false wins.

Contention 1: There are unlucky people, unlucky people are like refugees in slums. They don't complain so they are not unhappy. They are just unfortunate/ unlucky. They are not unhappy but they hope for a better living standard.

Contention 2: What would you consider a person who just lost a large amount of money? He would be considered an unlucky person. No duh.

Contention 3: We as Americans consider third would countries as unlucky. They are unlucky because of the status they are condemned to start out with. They are not unhappy but unlucky.

In conclusion in I have posted my case. I would like to say that this is an abuse because my opponent did not provide a fair ground in this debate.

Thank you. I look forward to your debate.
Debate Round No. 1
MewxVenus

Pro

I would like to base my argument on the stand point that logically, luck does not exist. It is a completely illogical idea. Therefore, it can't possibly be possible to be lucky or unlucky. If it does exist, it is merely a state of mind. Therefore, being happy equates to viewing oneself as "lucky" and being unhappy equates to viewing oneself as "unlucky".

Now to attack my oponents case:

C1:
Of course they are hoping for a better standard. But the fact that they are not unhappy means they are not unlucky.

C2:
Standpoint: Luck doesn't exist. He'd be considered unfortunate. Your definition is incorrect. There is a difference between the two.

C3:
On what grounds can you base this argument? I am American and I do not view these people as unlucky or unfortunate for that matter. This is a generalazation.

I don't understand how this is abusive or how I did not provide "fair grounds" debate.

I now respectfully await my oponents arguments.
SniperJake94

Con

SniperJake94 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
MewxVenus

Pro

Well...I ask my voters out there to give me this round! Thank you very much for an interesting debate! :)
SniperJake94

Con

I had to forfeit because of time and homework.

Before I begin I would like to clarify some things then defending my case.
First the resolution states there are no unlucky people. If I prove there is one unlucky person then I win the debate.

I would first like to post some definitons according to Apple dictonary and thesaurus:
Luck-"success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions"

Unlucky-"having, bringing, or resulting from bad luck." syns-unfortunate, luckless, out of luck, jinxed, hapless, ill-fated, ill-starred, unhappy; informal down on one's luck; literary star-crossed.

Unhappy-" not happy" syns- sad, miserable, sorrowful, dejected, despondent, disconsolate, morose, broken-hearted, heartbroken, hurting, down, downcast, dispirited, downhearted, depressed, melancholy, mournful, gloomy, glum, lugubrious, despairing, doleful, forlorn, woebegone, woeful, long-faced, joyless, cheerless; informal down in the dumps, down in/at the mouth, blue.

There are differences between unhappy and unlucky. Unforutate and unlucky are similar

Extending contention 1: "They don't complain so they are not unhappy." This I will elaborate on disabled people. People are born by random chance of genes. They were born out to be an unlucky being resulted by chance and luck during pregmancy. Therefore there are unlucky people with fatal genetic disorders.

Extending contention 2: there are unlucky people such as people who lost large abouts of money, this is based by a chance on gambing. You would need to depend on luck to get the right cards, but if you didn't then you are considered unlucky.

Extending contention 3: Speaking of countries, what would you consider someone who just had their wallet and passport stolen in a foreign country? You should consider the person unlucky because he or she was at the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong action. How about identiy theft? The victim would be considered unlucky because he wasn't aware of it and was unlucky to be doing the wrong thing at the wrong time.

So in conclusion there are unlucky people such as people with genetic disablities, gamble and lose, and someone who had their money and identity stolen. So clearly there are unlucky people. I urge you to vote CON.
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