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G_Skeptic-Guy
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missbailey8
Con (against)

There are two genders and three sexualities?

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Started: 5/4/2017 Category: Politics
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G_Skeptic-Guy

Pro

Round one is acceptance
Round two is arguments
Round three is counter arguments
Round four is conclusions

Please have complete sentences, proper grammar and citations.
missbailey8

Con

I accept.

Pro set no definitions, so I will provide my own. For this debate, gender is "the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)," [1] and sexuality is "a person's sexual orientation or preference." [2]

BoP is own Pro. He must prove that a) there are two genders, in addition to b) there are three sexualities. As such, if he doesn't prove both, I win.


Good luck, and let the best man (or woman) win.

Citations
[1]https://www.google.com...
[2]https://www.google.com...
Debate Round No. 1
G_Skeptic-Guy

Pro

(The reason my rebuttal took so long was due to the fact of my assumptions that you'd know I meant gender as biological and not social and cultural however with some research I believe I've already won)


If gender is social and/or and not biological then what social and cultural differences do Men and Women have asides from feminity and masculinity?

And if there more than two genders why did the Google definition you used and cited just list 'male and female'?

How is stuff like "demisexuality", "ageosexuality", and "androsexuality", etc. an sexual orentation? Most of these fourth sexualities sound like fetishes or kinks.

Asexuality and Agender are the lack-of sexuality and gender.

Citations:
http://ageofshitlords.com...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...(sexual)
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missbailey8

Con

Thank you to Pro for his opening arguments, and now I'm ready to start mine. Let's get started.

Gender Framework
For this argument, I would like to focus on the second half of the definition that I provided in Round One, in which gender is in "reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones".

Social Differences
This is a difficult aspect to define without being too vague, but let's set up a general question: socially, what is gender? Does it relate to gender roles in society or gender as a whole? I will try to touch on both in my arguments. In sociology, gender is revolves around the roles expected by each gender and sex. For example, women are expected to care for children.

"[Gender] may or may not depend upon biological traits. More specifically, it is a concept that describes how societies determine and manage sex categories; the cultural meanings attached to men and women’s roles; and how individuals understand their identities including, but not limited to, being a man, woman, transgender, intersex, gender queer and other gender positions. Gender involves social norms, attitudes and activities that society deems more appropriate for one sex over another. Gender is also determined by what an individual feels and does.

"The sociology of gender examines how society influences our understandings and perception of differences between masculinity (what society deems appropriate behaviour for a “man”) and femininity (what society deems appropriate behaviour for a “woman”). We examine how this, in turn, influences identity and social practices. We pay special focus on the power relationships that follow from the established gender order in a given society, as well as how this changes over time." [1]

Gender is dependent on both your internal experience and sex, to a certain extent. One person's cisgender may be another person's genderqueer. It can vary from person to person on their experiences and mindset.

Cultural Differences
Next, we have differences in culture. While gender is typically seen as a binary in the United States, other cultures disagree.

For example, many Native American tribes have the umbrella term two-spirit to describe themselves. "Rather than the physical body, Native Americans emphasised a person's 'spirit', or character, as being most important. Instead of seeing two-spirit persons as transsexuals who try to make themselves into 'the opposite sex', it is more accurate to understand them as individuals who take on a gender status that is different from both men and women. This alternative gender status offers a range of possibilities, from slightly effeminate males or masculine females, to androgynous or transgender persons, to those who completely cross-dress and act as the other gender." [2]

There are a few other examples of this in indigenous Hawaii, Incan culture, and the Sakalavas of Madagascar [3, 4] who have similar ideas of more than two genders.

Sexuality Framework

There two parts I would like to prove in this section. First, it is fair to assume by "there are...three sexualities", my opponent is addressing the three main ones that everybody is aware of: heterosexuality, homosexuality, and bisexuality. I will show that there are actually many more options. Secondly, I will base this on the definition I provided in Round One, being that sexuality is "a person's sexual orientation or preference".

More Than Three Sexualities?
Now to talk about that beautiful sexuality spectrum!


First, let's define sexual orientation to expand the definition of sexuality to be less confusing and vague. According to Psychology Today, it is "a term used to describe our patterns of emotional, romantic, and sexual attraction—and our sense of personal and social identity based on those attractions." [5] If you look at the bolded, then you might be able to guess my question: do they have to be interconnected, or can they be separated to create many other orientations? For example, I am emotionally, romantically, and sexually attracted to men and women, but can someone have differing romantic and sexual attraction? Is there variation?

Well, sexuality is a very complicated subject. However, it isn't something that can be controlled. Yes, you can choose who you date and have sex with, but that's a very surface level definition for attraction. Human desires are much deeper than that. Let's use another example from my personal life. I am currently dating a man, but I still find women sexually attractive. Who you are with doesn't always define who you are attracted to.


Now that we're passed that minor hurdle, let's examine the many aforementioned variations of sexuality. [6] If you so choose to look at that list, you will find many, many different flavors of sexuality, from aromatic to biromantic and more. And these are only covering the romantic variations! The same can be applied to sexual attraction depending on the person.

Citations
[1]https://othersociologist.com...
[2]https://www.google.com...
[3]https://sites.psu.edu...
[4]http://www.tate.org.uk...
[5]https://www.psychologytoday.com...
[6]https://lgbtq.unc.edu...

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Posted by G_Skeptic-Guy 8 months ago
G_Skeptic-Guy
As I stated above: "lack-of-sexuality".
Posted by Masterful 8 months ago
Masterful
Does not being sexually attracted to either count as a sexuality or a lack of a sexuality?
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