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Youngastronomer
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Ketchup
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There is more violence in the bible than in the Qur'an

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Started: 2/3/2018 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 weeks ago Status: Debating Period
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Youngastronomer

Pro

There is a lot of controversy between Muslims and Christians, but the problem with Christians is that they always talk and complain about violence, slavery or sex slavery in Islam but never bother looking at their own religion first.

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Youngastronomer

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Thanks for accepting, here goes.

Personally, I see many Christians who criticise the Quran on the "violent" verses but the verses in the bible turn out worse. There is also the time and date of the verses, for instance, in Surah 8:12 where it says God will cast terror into the hearts of the disbelievers, this verse was revealed during a battle between the Quraish and Muslims, had the battle not occured, this verse would not appear.

Jesus, being extremely peaceful and that then says "Do not suppose I came in peace, I came with a sword" in Matthew 10:34.
http://biblehub.com...

But as for the bible, I saw this in 1 Samuel 15:3: Attack the Amalekites and kill men, women, children, babies, horses and donkies, not sure what the donkey did.
http://biblehub.com...

And unlike Christianity, Muslims are not allowed to harm women, non-combatants, children, or even religious buildings (mosque, temple, church, synagogue, etc), we can't even chop down trees, those are true standards of war in Islam, it is also obligatory to make peace treaties if the enemy wants it.
4:90
https://quran.com...

Before you start thinking "Old Testament", don't think the New Testament is innocent either! There is sexual violence in the New Testament, that is concerning. And some violence as well.
http://shiloh-project.group.shef.ac.uk...

[1] http://shiloh-project.group.shef.ac.uk...
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Posted by Youngastronomer 2 weeks ago
Youngastronomer
www.muhammadfactcheck.org/?muhammad=prophet-muhammad-taught-terrorism-and-jihad-to-conquer-the-world-for-islam
Posted by vi_spex 2 weeks ago
vi_spex
they bring terrorism wherever they go as they are suppose to..
Posted by Actions_Speak 2 weeks ago
Actions_Speak
Islam like most religions would be great for communities, as they offer socialization and provide volunteer service. However Muslims in every nation are better off as minorities. For their own sake and the sake of others.
Posted by vi_spex 2 weeks ago
vi_spex
islam should be banned.. so muslims can convert from islam
Posted by Actions_Speak 2 weeks ago
Actions_Speak
His peaceful verses are more often than not negated by his verses later in life were he was focused on war and Quranic abrogation literally means when a verse contradicts another, the chronologically later one is true. The modern problem with Islam is the threat of a country becoming majority Muslim, as it is openly totalitarian (view sharia law). Since they have there own (extremely old fashioned laws) such as a women's vote is worth half a man's. A majority Muslim county is doomed to overwrite separate of church and state unlike all other major religions. This is why all the majority Muslim countries breed fachism are constantly at war. As a whole they quite literally are dumpster fires. If we can somehow find a way to kill off sharia law and Quranic abrogation a Muslim country that didn't breed fachism and bleed refugees might be possible.
Posted by Actions_Speak 2 weeks ago
Actions_Speak
He was most definitely a warlord. By definition no doubt
https://www.quora.com...
Posted by Youngastronomer 2 weeks ago
Youngastronomer
Muhammad was not a "warlord", all of the wars he faced and won were against people who attacked first, if Muhammad was a warlord then he would be disobeying God (which makes no sense because God praised him.)

It is stated not to transgress/be aggressive, and if the enemy wants a peace treaty, it is obligatory to agree.
Posted by Actions_Speak 2 weeks ago
Actions_Speak
I agree but quranic abrogation leads to Muslims supporting violence verses over peaceful ones since Muhammad was a warlord later in life.
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