There is no perfect goverment.
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Thank you for responding to my debate, I am very interested to hear your ideas on the topic.
The first thing I would like to ask if you would agree with me in saying that many of the requirements you have listed are relative in respect to personal and/or cultural background. For example, I suppose that an American will generally judge 'petty corruption' differently from, say, a West-African, in whom's country such forms of bribery might be socially accepted norm. In the same manner of thought, would you concur that the concept of 'civil liberties' too varies? In that the western norms on freedom of speech and emancipation might not meet equal approval within the mindset of the contemporary Middle East? If you do, then I suppose that you'll also grant that what constitutes the 'ideal' or 'best possible' government varies according to population or locale. That said, I assume the 'perfect government' we're looking for in this case doesn't need to be universally applicable in those respects and is to be found in the western world, is that correct?
I too consider myself to be a realist. In that respect I believe that as long as humans have free will, it is impossible to rule out corruption. In the same line of thought, I also consider it impossible to consistently find solutions to problems that will always benefit the people as a whole and that stability in a government system does not always have to be a positive thing. What worked two hundred years ago, might not work today and vice versa. In that respect, I think that 'stability of government' might prove a ruse in the long run.
I tend to agree with Winston Churchill who once remarked that "democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried." How that democracy is to be realized however is another matter. For example, I personally do not think every inhabitant of a democratic state should automatically have the right to vote. However, even with that being so, I am very glad I live in a western democracy which I consider to be (in respect to all current and past alternatives) the 'best' form of government yet devised.
My question to you would be; in what respect does your government not measure up to the requirements (corruption, decision making, stability, civil liberties) you listed in the previous round?
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http://academic.udayton.edu...) I know many good people barely getting by, and this rich poor gap sickens me. The political process, this one is a little harder to explain, and is better to use an example, when gun legislation was trying to make its way through in America, both groups agreed on background checks, but it was not passed, as democrats attempted to rope it in with a ban on assault weapons. Sometimes politics gets in the way of progress. Media unaccountability, the media will often lose attention to an issue, or just not report on it as it is unentertaining and or difficult to explain. An example of this would be horse race reporting on elections. This is when instead of reporting on policy issues, you report constantly on who they think is going to win, and any recent bloopers; as these are more entertaining. The last issue is un-educated authorities. When politicians go for office, they don't need to learn how the economy works, they only need to know how to regurgitate a speech and kiss a few babies.
A perfect society would have to work around all of these four things (and probably a few others I have not thought of) in order to remain a stable society that works for the good of the people and respects the rest of the world. I do not believe this is possible, as I have not yet come upon a decent example.
In a democracy, it is virtually impossible to satisfy all as the system is based on majority rule. So I would regard that as an impossible goal. What I would most like to advise in this case, is to truly look at international alternatives. Because if perfection is unachievable by definition, to aim the 'arrows' of improvement at the US government might not be the most helpful at the moment.
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