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There is no such thing as a contagious disease (2)

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Started: 12/20/2015 Category: Science
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The concept of contagious disease is false. Disease can only be caused by poisonous chemicals and vitamin deficiency.


I would first like to define "Contagious disease": A category of diseases transmittable from a person to another (usually infections) which are transmitted to other persons, either by physical contact (hence the name-origin) with the person suffering the disease, or by casual contact with their secretions or objects touched by them or airborne route among other routes.
I would first like to know what definition the instigator is putting forward to view "contagious diseases" are being non existant. Please bring to light what kind of evidence you have to make such a claim

Given the mentioned definition, here is a list of contagious diseases
Debate Round No. 1


I would like to use as my example; the common flu or cold. The common flu, can't be cured, no matter what medication, vaccine or other herbs or natural remedies you may take. The documentary - 'Tamiflu'; highlights the ineffectiveness of the so called 'viral anti-biotics'. This is because the medical system doesn't understand the causes of the flu. (Note - All diseases have flu like symptoms.) That's because all diseases really are just the one of two basic problems. That's either - vitamin deficiency or chemical/natural poisoning.

The concept that disease is spread from person to person is a total nonsense. This concept was developed by the Victorian Era during the Great Plagues and other smaller epidemics. In the old days, water was supplied by a well, which was situated in the middle of the village. This is still the situation in Africa. (Ebola). every now and then an animal would fall into the well and cause the water to become poisonous. People who lived nearest to the well would start to get sick first. The, others who lived further away from the well would gradually become sick. Thus, was born the concept of the contagious disease by some bureaucrat who worked out that disease spreads from a central point and slowly spreads from person to person.

Reference - The Broad Street Cholera Outbreak 1854 -


I would like to first point out you are completely dismissing the definition itself.

Secondly the reason we cannot cure the "common flu" also known as influenza, is due to the evolution of influenza. it undergoes either an antigenetic shift, or a genetic/antigentic drift. technically each flu do get cured. Nonetheless, this does not change the fact that influenza is a contagious disease.

Thirdly, the fact that we cannot "cure" these diseases, does not provide any solid ground to completely dismiss the existence of contagious diseases. The issue with the instigator seems to be with the lack of knowledge of the definition.
Debate Round No. 2


Extracted from the book by Arthur M. Baker
Awakening Our Self-Healing Body

"Viruses" Are Not Micro-organisms

Even though medical authorities mistakenly attribute to this dead cellular debris the powers of life and malevolence, microbiologists acknowledge that viruses are dead bits of DNA in a protein-lipid membrane coat, although FAILING TO REALIZE ITS SOURCE. As such, genomes are control mechanisms but not micro-organisms as the medical establishment would have us believe, since these so-called "viruses" are merely lifeless fragments of mitochondrial generic debris. Because of this, VIRUSES CANNOT CAUSE DISEASE unless they accumulate as filth and pollute our cells, tissues and circulation upon cellular death.
Viruses, then, are dead genomes from disintegrated cells whose cellular membrane is not completely broken down by cellular lysosomes.

Genomes have no characteristics of life whatsoever, and are merely bits of nucleic acid material normally recycled through phagocytosis or excreted as waste. Photos of alleged viruses "injecting themselves" into a cell actually show the cell literally engulfing the "virus" or proteinaceous debris. A dent, called invaginarion, then forms and the organic matter is surrounded by cellular substance which closes off, forming an impromptu stomach, and the "virus" disappears. The stomach then fills with powerful lysosome enzymes which digest the organic material, breaking it down into ammo acids and fatty acids for recycling or elimination. This process is a normal feature of cell physiology called phagocytosis (literally, cell-eating)" the routine process of cellular ingestion and enzymatic digestion of bacteria, dead tissue debris and other errant cells. Viruses are merely inert organic material totally devoid of all life qualities and are never seen to act. Photographs purporting to show viruses in action are outright frauds: what is actually shown is an ordinary physiological process of phagocytosis which occurs countless times daily within the body.

Remember, according to medical texts on virology and microbiology, viruses have the following un-lifelike characteristics:

1) Viruses have no metabolism"they cannot process food-stuffs or nutriment and they have no energy formation. They are only a template, or pattern of information, as are all genomes.

2) Viruses have no faculties for action of any kind"no nervous system, no sensory apparatus, and no intelligence that may coordinate movement or "bodily invasion" of any kind.

3) Viruses cannot replicate themselves"they supposedly depend entirely upon "obligate reproduction""meaning, reproduction by a host organism, something totally unheard of in all biology.


I would like to point you back toward the definition of contagious disease, and make it clear that lack of life does not mean that it is not a contagious disease. You are bringing up random facts about viruses, but it bring nothing substantial to the table, I think the issue you have is with the etymology of the words.

Please make sure that you address correctly the definition itself, rather than bring in a bundle of information that has no relevance whatsoever in this conversation.
Debate Round No. 3


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Debate Round No. 4


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thespooninator forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by govitz147 2 years ago
Pretty sure he is not 14 and he is of a much higher intellect than you, sorry Akhetan but you are nothing ore than a troll.
Posted by Akhenaten 2 years ago
No 14 year old's thanks.
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