There is no such thing as gay "marriage!"
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The first round is for you to introduce yourself. I will be arguing that gay "marriage" is not really marriage at all. It is impossible for two men or two women to be married. Marriage is only possible between one man and one woman.
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Great. Now first off. You are entitled to your own opinion and I accept that. And sorry for that little fiasco in my other debate. That other guy was just an intolerant bigot and I was just defending myself.
I will try not to bring religion into this as I read on your profile that you are an atheist so I imagine that you would declare my Christian beliefs invalid or null.
So anyway. Here's my opinion on gay marriage. It does not exist. I'll take it like this: you have a nut and a bolt. The woman is the nut and the man is the bolt. When put together, they fit perfectly. But with a homosexual marriage, there are two nuts and two bolts. Two nuts nor two bolts can fit together. They cancel each other out. This is what I feel about a homosexual couple. They cannot unite their bodies like a heterosexual couple can. It is impossible because their bodies don't fit together, nor their personalities. I know there is more to marriage than just sex so I will go further into this explaination in the third round.
You are free to bring religion into the topic, I am an Atheist but I believe in freedom of religion. Everyone should be free express whatever religious beliefs they believe in (as long as they don't negatively effect others.)
Everyone's definition of marriage is different. There are many forms of marriage and it has been subject to change in history.
The definition of marriage is funky and subject to change over time, for example:
The King of Israel Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines. That may have been a marriage accepted for his time but in the 21st century it's frowned upon severely.
Anyway marriage in my view is just a legal binding uniting two individuals together for rain or sunshine. It's also to express love and devotion for each other. Marriage is deeply engraved in our culture, a bachelors in his 40s may be looked down upon for not being married by his peers and boss. That is why I support marriage for any two people regardless of sexual preference.
Thank you for letting me use religion in this debate.
First of all. With your claim on King Solomon who was a polygamist, this was never God's ideal for marriage. I mean, how can you love 1000 wives at once? God meant for marriage to be between one man and one woman for life:
"Do you not know that God made them male and female. For this reason, a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and they shall become one flesh" (Ephesians 5:31)
As we can see here, God meant as has always meant for marriage to be a union between one man and one woman until they die. And I see marriage as much more than just a legal binding between to consenting adults. Yes a marriage should have love companionship, devotion to both spouses, but all marriages should have the possibility of bringing new life into the world. Homosexuals couples are incpapble of doing this. Infertile couples are different. Being infertile is usually not their fault. They are either born with it or they develop it later in life. Despite what everyone says, I don't believe you are "born" gay. If they were, God would not condemn it as "immoral" and "unnatural". Homosexuality is a choice, not a genetic mark.
Anyway. I thank you for this debate and that it was civilized. Good luck!!!
Anyway I'll provide my source for Solomon's wives below, I don't agree with him but he did still did it.
The definition of marriage changes over time, I don't believe the bible is a good source for marriage.
Genesis 4:19: "Lamech married two women."
Samuel 1:2 "He had two wives. The name of the one was Hannah, and the name of the other, Peninnah. And Peninnah had children, but Hannah had no children."
The bible allows the practice of polygamy as shown above. If there is a God, he supports polygamy based off the bible. That is why I do not support the idea of God dictating marriage.
This is my definition of marriage
Marriage: the legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman (or, in some jurisdictions, two people of the same sex) as partners in a relationship.
I don't know too much about England but in the United States our constitution believes in the separation of church and state. So if a church opposes gay marriage I believe they are more than welcomed to forbid gay marriage in their own church. However two people regardless of gender should be free to legally engage in marriage in the eyes of the law.
In the law marriage is defined by the government who derives it's power to govern from the people. If the majority of people do not support gay marriage than gay marriage should not be legal. If the majority of people support gay marriage then gay marriage should be legal.
Anyway thanks for the quick, efficient and civilized debate!
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