The Instigator
qopel
Con (against)
Losing
7 Points
The Contender
Albert
Pro (for)
Winning
22 Points

There is rational evidence for God

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/30/2013 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (2)
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qopel

Con

The burden of proof is on Pro, since that is the positive claim.
Albert

Pro

I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
qopel

Con

qopel forfeited this round.
Albert

Pro

Complexity of life






The existence of life shows that there must have been a very clever Designer at work.

Living things are extremely complex with numerous design features. Atheists acknowledge that things look designed[note 1] and evolution is their attempt to explain this apparent design without a designer.


Living things also contain enormous quantities of genetic information. Information can only come from an intelligent being.


That this design and information needs an intelligent being as its source is recognised by some atheists who try to explain it by suggesting that perhaps life on Earth was designed by aliens. However, this only removes the problem another step, and fails to answer the question of who designed the aliens.



Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by Citrakayah 3 years ago
Citrakayah
No, but you do have to refute your opponent's arguments. That's why this site is called /debate/.org rather than 'two_people_state_their_opinions_choose_who_you_agree_with.org'.
Posted by qopel 3 years ago
qopel
I didn't have any BoP.
Posted by Citrakayah 3 years ago
Citrakayah
"Oh look at this deabte
http://www.debate.org......
My opponent forfeited..and still gets tons of votes.
You double standard vote bombing a-holes.
I hate you all."

You know what the difference is?

You didn't make an argument in this debate.

AlbinoBunny forfeited one round but still refuted your arguments.

There is no double standard.
Posted by Albert 3 years ago
Albert
makhdoom5, no offense taken :)
The more ive studied universal topics, the move ive come to see how little we know.
Posted by makhdoom5 3 years ago
makhdoom5
also sorry if i hurt any one.
esp Qopel.

dear brother.
forgive me if you feel any thing i have done wrong than accept my apology.
Posted by makhdoom5 3 years ago
makhdoom5
recently know of anti matter.
man the list is so big.

admit your limitation.
there was a nation.
which was destroyed as they have the knowledge to reach the places which are not allowed to see.
i will not tell about there history.
but little example of Maya nation.
there Maya calendar.
Evey forecast was correct real extreme astronomer they were.
well its so long i will do debates soon. let me finish my studies.
i think think untilll that i should close my account for a while.
soon there would be very good debates in sha ALLAH.
Posted by makhdoom5 3 years ago
makhdoom5
if some only can fly and can walk on water what you will say about that.
i even dont reach that limit.
but there are many who.
also i can do many other things which you dont believe are extra ordinary.
i have seen so much extra ordinary thing.
science cant prove and that are not related to it.

that thing is material.
all you peoples are material.
you have very little knowledge of energy phase of matter.
even you know about the all strong and weak forces when mixed at the start of big bang.
very little.
you even cant know the structure of plazma.
you just few years back you consider it 4th state of matter. but was on past only 3.
you dont know how many state of matter or there.
you even know how many kinds of matter is there.
recently known of dark matter.
Posted by makhdoom5 3 years ago
makhdoom5
brothers,
you might be thinking of brain thing i just make fun of him.
i swear to ALLAH.
i did not. this is a solid argument.
i use it.
this is fact.
some thing must be know after death.
you cant see your guts untill you are dead.
so you will see ALLAH only in energy form.
as you cant bear it.
see the mount sanai. it was burnt some says its in the edge of saudi arabia near Africa. it was burnt and ALLAH even did not showed him self but little power he through there.
why i accept you false idea. when i see miracles every day.
Posted by makhdoom5 3 years ago
makhdoom5
albert.
i am not saying you insult others.
i was admitting you talked in good manner with logic with postive mind.
Qopel should respect some one believe.
you know this is not game.
saying GOD dont exist it even hurts us.
if some one dont believe him.
he should not be that much hyper to prove he do not exist. see within few days how many debates he has done on this.
this shows how much he hate GOD.
thats why i was saying you have positive attitude and Qopel dont.
but i also agree with Qopel that peoples vote bomb on his debates.
this is not good.
if some one make good argument he must get vote.
Posted by Albert 3 years ago
Albert
@makhdoom5
Sarcasm? Im not sure, but imo it's wise to stop listening to irrational biased opinions when their motive isnt truth. After talking to Qopel, ive concluded - no rational conversation will ever take place between me and him.

I respect atheist views, but i see no reason why a discussion should turn ugly.
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Reasons for voting decision: FF. Con should know that he could have accused Pro of not presenting an argument thus making the debate impossible. Instead her forfeited.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con doesn't forfeit. Pro wasted the first round and left nothing for Con to respond to. The rules do not dictate that the first round is for acceptance only. Therefore, it's bad conduct to not present an argument. Pro is also questionable in making an appeal to complexity, nor does he explain how data = information. He also makes a false citation and goes on a tangent about aliens.
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