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VikingSaxon
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Adam2
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There is so much prejudice against Germanic tribes(Vikings/Anglo-Saxons)

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Started: 3/18/2014 Category: People
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VikingSaxon

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I always see Vikings and Anglo-Saxons portrayed in the media as the evil,immoral uncivilized,uncultured,scumbag thugs while every other group of people are the "good guys".Even the massacring Romans,Turks,Egyptians and Even Mongolians! I hate these nonsense TV shows it's all racist,biased,delusional,queer sh!t!!
The truth is,we weren't any worse than any other civilizations throughout history and lived as practical merchants,great navigators and explorers and wonderful writers and authors!!
Adam2

Con

Thank you. I do agree that sometimes society overexagerrates history a bit, but come on, how about all the years not too long ago, as recent as 60 years ago when blacks, Italians, Germans, Spanish and all the other people were demonized. Their cultures belittled. How about the British and Danish colonial empires? I will debate this with you, but sometimes programs reflect what happened, whether one likes it or not. No culture is perfect, but many of those Northern European countries did a lot of horrible things to others over the course of 1000 years!
The KKK, hatred of tomboys who prefer guy friends and autistic people that was common in northern Europe. That's not right. You know it.
Debate Round No. 1
VikingSaxon

Pro

The Roman Empire committed a genocide of the Jewish People under its Occupation of the Land Of Israel.
From about 3,000,000 Jews in the First century CE, about 200,000 survived until the 7th century, most of them killed or enslaved.

The Roman occupation (63 BCE " 324 CE) proved a calamity for the Jewish people. The Romans destroyed Jewish independence and canceled its population majority in Israel.

Following the Great Revolt (66 " 70 CE), and increasingly after the Bar Cochva revolt (132 " 135 CE), the Roman policy as dictated from above was to turn the Jews into a minority in their land, and to eliminate the rebellious Jewish nationality.

For a while, the Romans also tried to force the Jews to integrate into the Hellenistic culture through religious persecution.

Rebellions
The Jews never accepted the loss of their national independence, or the colonization of their country by Greeks, Macedonians, Romans and Aramaic- Syrians, or the religious persecution. They ignored Rome"s stronger position and rose against its rule again and again, throughout the Roman occupation:

57 BCE: Rebellion against Gabinius, following his raiding the Temple riches.
54 BCE: Rebellion against Crassus, following his raiding the Temple riches.
66-70 CE (fall of Massada 73CE): The Great Revolt, motivated by the desire to throw off the bondage of Roman occupation, as well as for religious reasons.
115-117 CE: Rebellion against Trayanus, erupted in Israel and other places in the Empire, following Lucius Quitus" appointment as Proconsul in Judaea (having cruelly crushed the Jewish revolt in Messopotamia) and his policies.
132-135 CE: Bar Cochva revolt against the Hellenisation of Provincia Judea.

The Roman Empire suppressed the revolts by slaughtering, and wiping out of entire villages and cities, enslaving thousand hundreds of prisoners of war, and chasing many others to run away to save their lives.

On the eve of the Great Revolt against the Roman occupation of Israel (66 BCE) the total population was between 3,000,000 to 4,000,000, the majority 75% of whom Jews. After the revolt was suppressed the number of Jews was reduced to about 1,500,000.
Adam2

Con

The Romans were anti-semitic, yeah that's true. But the damage they did was nothing compared to the British, Danish empires.
Under the British
the current conflict in Northern Ireland
driving the indigenous Irish off the land to make space for Lowland Scots/northern English
King James I starting the atrocities in the Americas to gain control of the colonies (when he founded them)
the Irish potato famine
the Raj in India
racism and the KKK
Denmark
the atrocities in Greenland
http://en.wikipedia.org...
Debate Round No. 2
VikingSaxon

Pro

VikingSaxon forfeited this round.
Adam2

Con

I see you can't refute the truth. As I've said before, Anglo-Saxons and Vikings (later on Danes, Swedes, Scots-Irish and Northern English) have committed unspeakable atrocities during their times as empires. We saw what Sweden did for years to Finland. Russia even had to cave in to help Finland from Swedish oppression. Russia wasn't perfect, but I believe Russia was a notch up from Swedish oppression and tyranny.
Debate Round No. 3
VikingSaxon

Pro

VikingSaxon forfeited this round.
Adam2

Con

As I've said the Scandinavian countries have the worst history when it comes to oppression and racism.
Debate Round No. 4
VikingSaxon

Pro

VikingSaxon forfeited this round.
Adam2

Con

To close my argument, yes, Scandinavians and Anglo-Saxons have one of the most brutal, arguably the most, histories of all natons!
Hitler was not capable of this kinda large scale mistreatment.
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