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# There is truth, all truth is absolute, and truth is knowable.

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 Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point Started: 3/24/2009 Category: Miscellaneous Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period Viewed: 1,954 times Debate No: 7545
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Posted by Maikuru 8 years ago
Interesting debate. I'd side with Con but I don't have a cell and can't confirm my identity either haha.
Posted by Brewmaster 8 years ago
I'm new on debate.org so maybe I missed something, but is this debate really over already? It's a very interesting topic, I had hoped for more than two rounds.

Anyways, PRO, your rationality was almost perfect. However, the potential problem with a purely rational approach is that if you set up your conditions precisely then you can always rationally argue your way to any conclusion. This is a tricky thing to pull off, as the real world tends to be a bit more fluid.

Additionally, I was struck by an interesting example of relativism from, I believe, David Hume, although I may be wrong on the source. Imagine that on the table in front of you is a bowl of water at room temperature. Place your hand in the bowl, and you could describe it as tepid, or lukewarm. Now go stick your hand in the freezer for 10 minutes, and come back to that bowl of water. When you put your hand it in, that bowl of water is going to feel very warm, even hot. Now, we know the temperature of the water hasn't changed, but your relative perception of its temperature has. Since our only ability to gain knowledge of the bowl of water comes from our senses, which seem to me to be relative, how can we say that the Truth, or the true state, of that bowl is objective and ultimately knowable?
Posted by sorc 8 years ago
actually, even if he just says that all truth is absolute, it is now your burden to prove that not all truth is absolute.

your hot/cold example is fallacious because subjectivity is not truth. it is true that one may think it is hot, but that does not necessarily mean that it is hot.
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