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Thinkerer
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There should be more gun control in America.

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Started: 12/16/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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jamik10

Con

I will wait for someone else to begin.
Thinkerer

Pro

I must begin by pointing out the obvious: mass shootings in the U.S. They not only take the lives of various innocent citizens, but also create a general "stress" unto the public. You could debate that having MORE guns would resolve the problem and that people would be safer, fighting fire with fire... The only problem is that you would be pouring fuel into the fire, since adding more weaponry (which is the cause of the problem in the first place) into the equation, would only make it easier for these events to take place.
Weapons are things that shouldn't be accessible to anyone, but that is another topic to discuss. The real problem is that once you feel threatened by something, you feel the need to have something of equal power. This creates a loop that is hardly broken and can have grave consequences, such as the ones previously mentioned. If every citizen has, or can have, guns, how can we distinguish an enemy from your usual citizen? We can't pinpoint him, we can't detect him, we can't call someone of higher power, such has the police, to arrest them.
But mass shootings aren't the only problem. You might, once again, debate that guns are a means of protection, but is it really the way? We are talking about a contraption that can take someone's life in a second, and with relative ease.
Take, for example, a robbery. You hear him, you come downstairs with your gun. He has one as well. One of you will most likely die or have a severe wound by the end of the encounter. What if, instead of resorting to such a brutal method, you don't try and use an alarm and non-deadly weapon such has a long range taser? Just knowing that instead of killing him I would only make him pass out, giving time for the police to arrive and arrest him, would make it a hell of a lot easier to pull the trigger.
Guns aren't a right. They are nothing but a way to achieve chaos and bad results, even if used in self defense. They should be only be used in last resort and by professionals with a trained sense of justice and moral aptitude, NOT by the general public, for do you really think that having the means to take someone else's live is the best way to keep yourself safe?
Debate Round No. 1
jamik10

Con

You have a good point, however you ruin it when you say, "Weapons are things that shouldn't be accessible to anyone". If people did not have weapons and the right to use them, how would you protect yourself from someone attacking you? And what are you classifications of a weapon because knives can kill just as well as guns and if you take away guns then people will still find ways to murder. Illegal guns make things worse. Look at Chicago, Illinois where they banned guns. The murder rates are higher than in places that have legal guns. Why do we feel threatened by people who are using guns for hunting, hobby, stress relief, or even collecting in the proper areas. There are ranges and specific areas for people who want to shoot for hobby or hunting or any other reason. It is the people that abuse the 2nd amendment that ruin it for everyone. It is the same in a classroom situation where a teacher gives the class detention for one or two people misbehaving. Would you say it is right to ruin it for everyone because of a few? You distinguish them by who is shooting or breaking the rules such as purchasing an illegal weapon, not having the identification, or who is not in the right mental state (being diagnosed with a mental illness later in life). Police take minutes to get to you on average. That is a fact based on history. n that time, what are you going to be able to do to save yourself if a murderer is in your home? Hunters will be put into a position where they have trouble finding ways to feed themselves and their family. What will you say to that? They should be vegetarian? Not everyone can adapt to that well and meat is essential to many people's bodies.
I believe you are thinking that just because something has the potential to, that it will. Yes, guns have the potential to kill someone in a second. HOWEVER, that is only if the gun is loaded, pointing at someone, the safety is off, and someone's finger is close enough to the trigger to pull it and not move it away from a deadly shot at the target. The problem with alarms is that the police won't save you in time. Also, the robber has already broken a law, he knows that if he killed you someone will hear the shot or find you sometime and therefore he will be caught and put on trial. If a robber had a gun and so do you, that will show that you are not afraid to shoot, should he show any aggression towards you. If you shot him first and he died, you can be arrested yourself, even if it was in self defense. The thing with situations such as these is that people need to know and understand the law and consequences. Guns may make situations worse, but you are not even MENTIONING hunters who use guns to get dinner for families, collectors who most likely can't even buy ammo anymore, or people who shoot as a hobby in the proper facilities.
Guns are a right as written in the Bill of Rights. They may have created chaos and bad results in the past, but compare the number of people arrested for murder using a gun compared to the 40% of Americans who own guns. Do you really believe that by taking away guns it will become better? People will still find guns, I promise you. And those people will still use them to murder people. Even people in government are trained to shoot, you think all of them will refrain for murdering anyone? Taking away guns makes situations WORSE. History has shown this and it will continue to.
In 2012, about 5 in 8 murders total were with guns in Wyoming. Wyoming is a state with very lenient gun laws. What do you think of that? A WHOLE 8 PEOPLE? OMG! That's not a lot at all. Guns are not the problem. The problem lies with the people who pull the trigger of the gun.
Technically, the second and tenth amendments make it illegal for any gun control, yet we have it. I agree with background checks and ensuring the safety of the owner of the permit. That makes sense. Banning guns make no logical sense and I hate the idea of not being protected by myself and having to wait for someone else to protect me. I will not sway from my idea that banning guns is a horrible idea. The United States is a "free country". How free is it if guns are banned and you have to rely on people who often bully people because of their "status" of a government official?
Thinkerer

Pro

Thinkerer forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
jamik10

Con

I don't want to argue anything more until my opponent continues to debate.
Thinkerer

Pro

Thinkerer forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
jamik10

Con

jamik10 forfeited this round.
Thinkerer

Pro

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